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suggestion: put a captcha before pvp = bots no more!

icypalavericypalaver Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
edited July 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
As the title says - captcha on battle start would make pvp much less annoying, and could actually get players to care about the matchups. can't complete = kick, new player in

PS: anyone seen the rogue bot with perma block/dodge? they're stepping up their game
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  • mardeab83mardeab83 Member Posts: 71
    edited July 2013
    smart, using a proven tech.
    suggestion will be ignored, but I will plagiarize for my own needs
  • silveralucardsilveralucard Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 410 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    hahaha this is quite good suggestion adn should not be that complicated to code something after the Shift 1 to join, like some random question while you wait XD lol i do agree and aprove this :D
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  • justkazjustkaz Member Posts: 67
    edited July 2013
    Cryptic is too lazy to implement any real solution to solve the bot problem in both PvP and PvE farming.
  • kimberixkimberix Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Bots farm glory, to buy BOE items, to place in the AH, to sell with AD

    AD which cryptic can sell via zen...
  • techiebikertechiebiker Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 9
    edited July 2013
    If that happens I will be cut out of pvp. I cannot read the stupid and idiotic captcha boxes due to sight problems. I have to have my son read them to me.
  • mardeab83mardeab83 Member Posts: 71
    edited July 2013
    techiebiker wrote: »
    If that happens I will be cut out of pvp. I cannot read the stupid and idiotic captcha boxes due to sight problems. I have to have my son read them to me.

    get new eyes?
    try the audio option, it looks like a little speaker thingy.
    now if you say that doesn't work, I will start to have serious doubt that you are in fact a human.
    are you a reptilian?
  • pizzamuraipizzamurai Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Captcha before every single match would annoy me almost as much as bots.
  • huckasevenhuckaseven Banned Users Posts: 470 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    bots can already solve captchas, youre like 10 years late
  • icypalavericypalaver Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    huckaseven wrote: »
    bots can already solve captchas, youre like 10 years late

    > hmm, possibly but not the kind of bots mostly used in MMOs - most of them are AHKey scripts or the like which cant do captchas. in any case, wouldnt you like the bots go down by 50% say? - or you're just having a moan
  • vold316vold316 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    That would be so annoying...
    But what they could create is a random pop up Not-a-Bot confirmation (a button that appears after than you join the queue and before than the team is ready to enter, in random locations and cannot be modified with the UI, also with a short duration and that appears in a relatively random moment).

    Although, that wouldn't be needed if their game design wouldn't be so cheap.
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  • huckasevenhuckaseven Banned Users Posts: 470 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    icypalaver wrote: »
    > hmm, possibly but not the kind of bots mostly used in MMOs - most of them are AHKey scripts or the like which cant do captchas. in any case, wouldnt you like the bots go down by 50% say? - or you're just having a moan

    well, if you reduce 1 by 50%, then youll have to round up anyway and youre back to 1, doesnt change much :)

    and bots can be improved too and they will be improved if there are captchas added...not to mention that around 80% less real players would PVP cause captchas are annoying as hell
  • sasheriasasheria Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    vold316 wrote: »
    That would be so annoying...
    But what they could create is a random pop up Not-a-Bot confirmation (a button that appears after than you join the queue and before than the team is ready to enter, in random locations and cannot be modified with the UI, also with a short duration and that appears in a relatively random moment).

    Although, that wouldn't be needed if their game design wouldn't be so cheap.

    That won't work either. There is a program that can automate stuff with scripts and EVEN read the read. EVE online has a mining bot (I remember seeing it on youtube) it can scan rocks and mine area (rock/asteroids usually don't spawn in exact spot) it can "scan" the area and run certain script as needed.

    Having a button "moved" or "randomly" spawn will just annoy the players not the bots.
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  • ghostmatterghostmatter Member Posts: 136 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    It might be a good idea though it would require a solution for disabled players.
  • wholyhandgrenadewholyhandgrenade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    techiebiker wrote: »
    If that happens I will be cut out of pvp. I cannot read the stupid and idiotic captcha boxes due to sight problems. I have to have my son read them to me.

    I have to cycle though them about 10 to 15 times just to be able to reasonably guess at one of them. At science museums I fail at one or two of the eye dot type tests.
  • kimberixkimberix Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I'm the same. I'm colourblind and I find reading some of them quite difficult.

    I'm glad they allow you to cycle through them to find one you can read.
  • wholyhandgrenadewholyhandgrenade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    icypalaver wrote: »
    > hmm, possibly but not the kind of bots mostly used in MMOs - most of them are AHKey scripts or the like which cant do captchas. in any case, wouldnt you like the bots go down by 50% say? - or you're just having a moan

    don't you understand, it doesn't matter what most of them are or aren't, as long as a couple can read and get through it, everyone who uses them will typically go to offsites and download whatever script they need to use to be able to use them too
  • wholyhandgrenadewholyhandgrenade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    If you want to get rid of bots in PvP you need a PvP player ranking system, at least the bots will play poorly and be badly ranked. If you want to even get rid of the bots at the poorly ranked levels you fail to reward them and maybe even start charging them upon their bad performances.

    Without a PvP ranking system, you could levy a fine on the worst performing characters in matches but if there aren't any bots those poorly performing characters may well be the ones that enabled everyone else to win their match.
  • kimberixkimberix Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    What about having the starting area for pvp on a ledge with moving platforms above lava that insta-kills.

    Human players would be able to work out the different patterns to jump across them into the game, the bots would just jump all over the place and constantly kill themsleves on the lava.

    The platforms could also be designed to be impossible to climb back up the other way so it should also fix players camping the spawn camps.
  • kimberixkimberix Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    wholyhandgrenade wrote: »
    If you want to get rid of bots in PvP you need a PvP player ranking system, at least the bots will play poorly and be badly ranked. If you want to even get rid of the bots at the poorly ranked levels you fail to reward them and maybe even start charging them upon their bad performances.

    Without a PvP ranking system, you could levy a fine on the worst performing characters in matches but if there aren't any bots those poorly performing characters may well be the ones that enabled everyone else to win their match.

    hah yeah, eventually you'd have pvp games with 5 bots against 5 bots :)
  • kwequakwequa Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    "Attack "x" crystal to start". I hate bots..I don't pvp much but had node miners in EQ2. And farmer bot grps a tank and all mages. Pull all cast same nuke. Those around yet?
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  • silveralucardsilveralucard Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 410 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    in any case i think is a good option if you fail with the caption you will move back again to the queue, this will reduce parties with bots, at some point you will have some lucky but that was able to enter with the caption but i think those captionare a good idea, or something similar like logic questions like 2+2 or what color is the sky, if you cannot read you will probably not play pvp XD cause you are not going to be able to see anything there XD if you are color blind and the sky is grey for you then use logic, in any case would be an easy solution that most can live with so to avoid bots XD i prefer to use that than wait like 10 min in a 1000-0 match that do not give any points
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  • huckasevenhuckaseven Banned Users Posts: 470 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    kimberix wrote: »
    What about having the starting area for pvp on a ledge with moving platforms above lava that insta-kills.

    Human players would be able to work out the different patterns to jump across them into the game, the bots would just jump all over the place and constantly kill themsleves on the lava.

    The platforms could also be designed to be impossible to climb back up the other way so it should also fix players camping the spawn camps.
    wouldnt get rid of bots
    they would just die over and over, just like they are doing it now

    nothing would change
    silveralucard wrote: »
    in any case i think is a good option if you fail with the caption you will move back again to the queue, this will reduce parties with bots, at some point you will have some lucky but that was able to enter with the caption but i think those captionare a good idea, or something similar like logic questions like 2+2 or what color is the sky, if you cannot read you will probably not play pvp XD cause you are not going to be able to see anything there XD if you are color blind and the sky is grey for you then use logic, in any case would be an easy solution that most can live with so to avoid bots XD i prefer to use that than wait like 10 min in a 1000-0 match that do not give any points

    can all be solved by bots
  • huckasevenhuckaseven Banned Users Posts: 470 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    ~~double post ~~
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