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grimahgrimah Member Posts: 1,658 Arc User
edited June 2013 in The Militia Barracks
Hi, i recently got my GWF alt to 60, he is using ancient weapon. Stats are as follows

33k HP
4000 power
2400 crit
2400 recov
22% arp worth
2800 defense
1200 deflect
and some other stats.

Hes sentinel build and uses 7 teneberous (normal). I do understand teneberous isnt the best for PvE DPS, nor is using sentinel. he has 10 points in destroyer, and the 15% mark damage feat, Ive tried using daring shout (for 10 seconds of mark) or using roar, flourish,IBS on boss fights, if theres a guardian about who puts those marks on for me. Class features (weapon master/steel blitz)

Now my dps is pretty dire, when partying with a rogue its around 40% less damage than he is doing. with less gear, i also understand a rogue has better single target capabilities.

I wanted some advice on skill rotations and such that could boost my damage, im using sure strike only when ive applied weapon master strike. cresendo and ibs when mark is on the boss. standing in reds all the time to get my determination up (doesnt hurt me in my build and avoiding knockback/cc ones when possible)

Some constructive advice would help, but i do not want to spec out of sentinel nor do i want to get rid of the tenerbrous as he is more of my experimental, and i do plan to get greater tene in the future. if i take them out i would gain around 1000 power (with rank 7 radiants) instead, which i do not wish to do currently.
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  • copticonecopticone Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Do you have Deep Gash?
    Do you use Roar to gain crazy Determination/AP?
    How often are you in Unstoppable?
    Are you tapping WMS immediately followed by WS before the WMS animation ends?
    What is your uptime on Slam?
    Do you try to get into Combat Advantage position?
    What DPS buffing feats do you have?
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  • realborealbo Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Roll Destroyer. Problem fixed. With those stats and enchants, if you're that behind in dps, either you are playing wrong or specced. I'm inclined towards the latter.
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  • grimahgrimah Member Posts: 1,658 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I dont have deep gash, does that feat stack? im using roar, however in single boss fights is it still worth using? (such as spellplague/draco)

    the unstoppable varies. i try to go into it as soon as my bar goes near full.

    I dont use wicked strike often, aoe is something im trying to focus on right now. but single dps on boss fights.

    do you suggest slam over cresendo even on 1 target?
    I wont be speccing into destroyer, as it was not the purpose of this alt. I wanted this gwf to be a bit of an oddball, not just a damage dealer. I dont want to top the damage, but i want to provide enough damage to single target down bosses when needed.
    Creator of the featured survival horror foundry: "The Silence of Haydenwick" Video Review
    and also the featured satirical comedic adventure "A Call for Heroes".
  • drungorthdrungorth Member Posts: 35
    edited June 2013
    grimah wrote: »
    Hi, i recently got my GWF alt to 60, he is using ancient weapon. Stats are as follows

    33k HP
    4000 power
    2400 crit
    2400 recov
    22% arp worth
    2800 defense
    1200 deflect
    and some other stats.

    Hes sentinel build and uses 7 teneberous (normal). I do understand teneberous isnt the best for PvE DPS, nor is using sentinel. he has 10 points in destroyer, and the 15% mark damage feat, Ive tried using daring shout (for 10 seconds of mark) or using roar, flourish,IBS on boss fights, if theres a guardian about who puts those marks on for me. Class features (weapon master/steel blitz)

    Now my dps is pretty dire, when partying with a rogue its around 40% less damage than he is doing. with less gear, i also understand a rogue has better single target capabilities.

    I wanted some advice on skill rotations and such that could boost my damage, im using sure strike only when ive applied weapon master strike. cresendo and ibs when mark is on the boss. standing in reds all the time to get my determination up (doesnt hurt me in my build and avoiding knockback/cc ones when possible)

    Some constructive advice would help, but i do not want to spec out of sentinel nor do i want to get rid of the tenerbrous as he is more of my experimental, and i do plan to get greater tene in the future. if i take them out i would gain around 1000 power (with rank 7 radiants) instead, which i do not wish to do currently.


    LoL really i'd love to see how you acheive these stats...you must have what 16k gs ?
    I have a 11k5 gs senti and to acheive 33khp i had to sacrifice other stuff, To get around the same def and deflect i have to wear a mix of titan and imposing set...plz tell me your secret. I also use 6 x tene enchants with ancient weaps
  • drungorthdrungorth Member Posts: 35
    edited June 2013
    i Just checked i have like 3k def and 2k reflect but only 3k power 1k crit 400 recovery 0 arp
  • serevnserevn Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    You need a good control wizard who knows what he's doing to spam Arcane Singularity, This will allow a GWF and it's AOE abilites to top the damage charts. Although a mostly Destroyer build spamming slam is preferable for PVE dps.
  • aierrsaierrs Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 60
    edited June 2013
    Dps.. then why are u sentinel? Go destroyer. Use wms + ss and animation cancel for ss last hits.

    Get recovery to 3k. And honestly why is ur crit so low? I have 3.9k without trying.

    Get a greater lightning enchant too.
  • tyrannic32tyrannic32 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    i would like to know how threadstarter got those stats too...
    some pics would be nice though..
  • grimahgrimah Member Posts: 1,658 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    so, does deep gash stack? I was sceptical about taking it because it didnt seem like much if it didnt.

    and as i said before, its not aoe that im worried about, its single target.
    Creator of the featured survival horror foundry: "The Silence of Haydenwick" Video Review
    and also the featured satirical comedic adventure "A Call for Heroes".
  • copticonecopticone Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    grimah wrote: »
    so, does deep gash stack? I was sceptical about taking it because it didnt seem like much if it didnt.

    and as i said before, its not aoe that im worried about, its single target.

    It doesnt stack, but every crit refreshes the gash.
    Not sure why you are worried about Single Target. You will never come close to what a TR can do. And slotting 3 single target encounters in a dungeon run will actually lower your overall dps, since you wont be building determination as fast.
    Check out my personal Nerf Proof T2 Thaumaturge Build.
  • belladanbelladan Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 146 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    I normally run with 2 single target encounters and 1 aoe encounter. As he's sentinel, Determination building won't happen via damage output.
  • grimahgrimah Member Posts: 1,658 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    im concerned because that is where things fall most in performance. so any help would be great, aoe is fine. tanking adds is fine. its just single target on boss. i know rogues will be far higher. but it doesnt mean i should just give up on trying to help my team, when this situation comes.
    Creator of the featured survival horror foundry: "The Silence of Haydenwick" Video Review
    and also the featured satirical comedic adventure "A Call for Heroes".
  • damianlightbanedamianlightbane Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I would also like to know how you managed to achieve those stats. especially that amount of HP.
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