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Recovery and the Astral Shield

tapp3rtapp3r Member Posts: 46
edited June 2013 in The Temple
Just wondering, does anyone have enough recovery to shorten the AS cooldown to a point where you can use it again before it's gone? I got 3.5k currently, didn't go for the recovery sets (obviously having 2/4 on 2 sets with a +450 recovery bonus would give a lot more) and I got just about 5 seconds inbetween AS's, with a ~15 sec cooldown. Only got rank 5 enchantments.
Feels like one would need over 5000 recovery to even get close.. but it would be nice to know if it's even achievable.
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  • dercavadercava Member Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Here is the CD with 10k recovery:
    https://imageshack.us/a/img33/5817/g2y.png

    You will get it lower if you have higher charisma than me, or if you spec more into INT aswell, but I don't think you can get the cd to 10sec.
    Cyclop.. and I like coffee
  • tapp3rtapp3r Member Posts: 46
    edited June 2013
    You get 0.9 seconds lower cooldown than me (I have 14.6 seconds) by having 6.5k more recovery than me. That's madness, thought recovery would have a bigger effect than that. I got 21 charisma. Well ****, that's disappointing, really wanted to achieve the permanent AS.
    I'm very impressed with your recovery, sweet jesus that's a lot of recovery! Well that was certainly an eye-opener. Thanks for replying.
  • fondlezfondlez Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    dercava wrote: »
    Here is the CD with 10k recovery:
    https://imageshack.us/a/img33/5817/g2y.png

    You will get it lower if you have higher charisma than me, or if you spec more into INT aswell, but I don't think you can get the cd to 10sec.
    Gear Score: 11,987
    Power: 15,696
    Critical Strike: 8,795
    Recovery: 10,212
    Defense: 7,464

    Multiple stacked Linked Spirit buffs?
  • dercavadercava Member Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    fondlez wrote: »
    Multiple stacked Linked Spirit buffs?

    Yea, I just wanted to demonstrate when diminishing returns really kick in.
    You will get it lower with more CHA and INT tho.
    Cyclop.. and I like coffee
  • fondlezfondlez Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    dercava wrote: »
    Yea, I just wanted to demonstrate when diminishing returns really kick in.
    You will get it lower with more CHA and INT tho.

    Thanks for the clarification.

    It will go lower, but Recharge Speed Increase has its own DR, as Unspecified found out rather unpleasantly - and that was pre-patch! I highly doubt it is now possible to get 100% uptime on AS under any kind of build.
  • dercavadercava Member Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I tried respeccing for max CHA and INT ( in my case only 19CHA and 16INT) and with 3.3k recovery without any buffs my AS CD went down to 14.2sec.
    Cyclop.. and I like coffee
  • leillannaleillanna Member Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    There is no point in going beyond 3k recovery. NONE!! Toss the rest into crit till 3k (if you're a crit build) then power...
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Eilistraee zhal zuch tlu wun ussta xukuth.
  • templarknight91templarknight91 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    leillanna wrote: »
    There is no point in going beyond 3k recovery. NONE!! Toss the rest into crit till 3k (if you're a crit build) then power...

    Action Point gain? I find it really useful builds up extremely quick and can throw down Hollowed Ground.
  • orodalforodalf Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Astral Shield's Base Cooldown is 20 seconds. You'd need +100% Recharge Speed in order to get the cooldown down to 10 seconds. This is impossible to attain.
  • ganjaman1ganjaman1 Member Posts: 792 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    dercava wrote: »
    Here is the CD with 10k recovery:
    https://imageshack.us/a/img33/5817/g2y.png

    You will get it lower if you have higher charisma than me, or if you spec more into INT aswell, but I don't think you can get the cd to 10sec.


    Totally not worth it for any encounter for that matter lol 10k .
    http://youtu.be/kiEPiETiVnU?t=4m5s
  • adrukenadruken Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    orodalf wrote: »
    Astral Shield's Base Cooldown is 20 seconds. You'd need +100% Recharge Speed in order to get the cooldown down to 10 seconds. This is impossible to attain.

    hmm I think is 50% recharge speed, not 100%.. 100% would mean istant.
  • fondlezfondlez Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    adruken wrote: »
    hmm I think is 50% recharge speed, not 100%.. 100% would mean istant.

    If you were right,

    33% Recharge Speed Increase: 20s x (1 - 0.33) = 13.4s.

    Obviously, this is not correct.

    33% Recharge Speed Increase: 20s / (1 + 0.33) = 15s.

    The latter is close to what people see in game. Therefore,

    100% Recharge Speed Increase: 20s / (1 + 1) = 10s.

    100% Recharge Speed Increase is required for 100% uptime on Astral Shield, i.e. impossible since there is Diminishing Returns on both Recovery and Recharge Speed Increase.
  • morsitansmorsitans Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 1,284 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    Yep, base recharge speed starts at 100%, since...stuff recharges at exactly the rate it should recharge at.
    33% recharge speed means you now recharge at 133% of the rate the skill usually should, or in other words, 75% faster.
  • awesomehealawesomeheal Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    You must also add the fact that after about 3500 recovery diminishing returns set in. So its pretty much impossible to obtain.
  • riqitariqita Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 297 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    The devs don't want us to have AS up permanently, so that would be nerfed back to impossible in any case.
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