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Personally, $10 is too much for a single bag on a single character. I realize that Cryptic needs to make money, but honestly, that is INSANELY high. No if buying that bag gave you one on every character, THEN I could definitely be enticed. Or just make them like $1-2.
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I will not see it happening though.
In all honesty I wouldn't have an issue if the bag size was increased by 100%. (24 and 48 slot) The thing that takes up most of my bag space is crafting projects, enchant/rune stones, and vanity items.
On a side note enchant/rune stones should have there own tab like craft does.
I agree, it's pains me that I spent $10 on a bag that I now use ONLY to carry enchants.
Are you sure they aren't bind on equip?
Can someone else (preferably a Dev) confirm this, as if they aren't I might actually buy a couple of couple.
What server you on dave?
These greedy tactics are just way out of control in f2p gaming, yeah we can join the game for FREE but its not really free if you want to enjoy it...Ive seen a huge amount of Q-Q about this, i myself have been able to handle the small bag space.
This is my bags contents - 5 injury kits (that's all you need)
I bought both founders packs and I am now asked to pay for bags just to even make this game playable? Like how many runes are there? 20? Then there are like 8 levels of each rune, then there are al the quest garbage, the seals, the alternate currencies. Its BS. Seals and quets items need to be put in a UNLIMITED allocated tab. quit taking up my inventroy space with it. Then you have the profession kits, potions of all kinds, its RIDICULOUS.
It needs a fix.
Last night I was so infuriated with bag space, I had been qued for like over an hour for a dungeon, it pops right as I am finishing a solo dungeon, and I am frantically trying to find bag space for the item the boss dropped and to get another spot for the chest item that spawned. ....and I did not want to have to reque.
I manage to delete some piece of garbage grab the boss item, then run to chest open, won't let me loot..no space...so I frantically look in my inventory to get something to delete and booom....I get ported to dungeon instance...missed the loot, and worse than that I have to redo the entire solo dungeon.
That will make you freaking mad.....Cryptic quit being so greedy, had I known you would do this I would have never dropped a dime on your game. Its just like all the "free" Android games...I avoid those like the plague...and thanks to companies like Cryptic F2P MMOs should be ostracized in the same manner.
...this would be ludicrously cheaper than the bags in just about every other game out there that sells them. People would have their arguments taken better if they didn't go so ridiculously far in the opposite direction - it just gets written off as "eh, irrational expectations; these players won't be satisfied with anything we could do, so no point in trying to make a deal."
(re:"they're too small".... really, the bags are quite large. And anyway, the size isn't an issue, it's just a case of $/space. So making them cheaper would make the "size" better - unless, of course, filling all bag spaces on a character still left you with not enough space. Which I know isn't true, one additional bag on my "main" was just fine through level 60. And now I can mail that bag to whichever upper-level alt I happen to be focusing on.)
All of that said, I found a somewhat cheaper/better way to deal with cargo space. Yeah, I have one bag, but I also bought two character slots for 500zen, and made two "mule" characters. One for enchants, one for runes. Leveled up through lv8, they have a good amount of bag space. Just have to stop by the mailbox more often. (and as an extra bonus, level the mules to lv11, and they can both craft additional AD with leadership, and invoke for more AD & celestial coins.)
I too find the prices quite greedy... Apparently it's better to cater to the few whales than all the rest of us.
It's "small" things like this that triggers a full-blown stubbornness in me; I'm not going to spend a single dime on anything, having fun while it lasts while looking for something else, keeping watch on what else is on the horizon.
Especially when in a sub based game you pay $15 a month for access to everything (including all the bag space you want) Paying $10 for one bag seems a little absurd, and they ask this while also asking $30 for mounts? Not to mention the amounts you need to pay to progress at a reasonable rate with crafting. *sigh* OH BUT! It's a FREE TO PLAYOMG!!! JFC. When will this mush for brains generation realize that 10+30+25+15+10 =/= $15 a month??? F my Life.
AND THEN!! $200 for "the best" package?? Opposed to buying a digital version of a Buy to Play or Pay to play for $60. NOT ONLY do they ask you pay $200, they tell you it's actually worth $300!!! OMG i never laughed so hard in my life. I seriously thought that i was at a prank site. Who the f*ck decided the value?/ Oh god *wipestear* it is so hilarious.
F*CK! *jay&silentbob rant*
IF you decide to spend real money.
I think what causes the Zen prices to be so high is the Zen to AD trading. With that market you never need spend a single penny on this game, you have to spend a lot of time, play the AH and Zen/AD market, but those savvy enough or with enough free time will get what they want.
I think they need to break that connection and offer all the Zen store items in the AD store, this way the prices in the Zen store can be adjusted so that those willing to spend money can feel they are getting something of value and those who have the AD can continue to purchase the items they want without spending money.
The way I see it this game caters to those with copious amounts of free time and those who have extra money and here I am stuck in the mediocre middle with neither.
And $10 is not just too much. It is exorbitant and gouging. I certainly hope this game gets wise and moves on from its greedy phase and by doing that ensuring the games longevity.
Eh, most of that stuff you mention is very optional. Especially the 200 collectors/founder/etc pack. Yeah, I think it's a stupid amount of $ to put into a game.... but, then, I thought the same thing about $150+ for the Skyrim collector's edition. And neither of those things were remotely "required". Or "standard".
As for the $30 mount.... 1. that's for all your characters (if you play one, it's expensive. If you play lots of alts, it's less expensive). 2. I did just fine on a basic 50% speed mount.
Speeding up crafting? Yeah, that's pure luxury.
A bag.... well, yeah. Some kind of extra storage (whether more bank space, or a guild bank, or mailing extra junk to alts) is kind of required, once you get into the lv40+ range.
So.... sure, yes, one could spend money on those things. But unless you're some kind of obsessive min/max/powergamer/gotta-be-number-one dude, the vast majority of it truly is optional. (all hands, brace for incoming "lol fanboy" :rolleyes:)
To each his own, it really is no big deal, it's not like cryptic is going to change their model for one person laughing in their face over it anyway.
Its like they made their inventory as horrible as possible and then put in 10 dollar bags.....this is a good way to ruin your good faith with your players Cryptic. Once you burn that bridge you will never get another shot at it. The gamer community will make sure of it. They need to chill on this cash shop, I have spent way more than I should have on good faith...and I am still seeing where they want even more money.
Till this cash grubiness is resolved my advice to friends is stay away from this game.
Cheaper? Maybe although I can't say I've seen an example of more expensive bags in another game. Also, the bag in Neverwinter SHOULD be cheaper because they are literally THE ONLY WAY to gain more bag space in the game after getting the two quest rewards. Every other game has tons of smaller bags earnable in game with the regular currency, and often craftable as well. NW has neither.
For my part, I don't disagree that these things are optional. They certainly are. My point was "I have money put into Zen right now, and I'm ready to spend more once that is used. This is the value level I require in order to get me to spend." I mean, they can keep their prices high, and I will simply not give them any more money, or they can lower them and get money from me on a regular basis.
Oh, yeah, I understand that completely. I think in similar ways usually (like, if the bags were cheaper, I'd likely have bought more...)
re: bags should be $2/etc... I've bought bags in a good number of games, it's one of the more common "quality of life" items I'll purchase in a f2p game. Generally, for decent sized bags (i.e, not 8-slots)? I'd expect to see anywhere from $4-7. Slightly cheaper for bank space, and much more expensive for "account-shared" space (I've paid up to $15 for that). The games that really bug me - and ones that I don't buy bag space in - are the ones where it's temporary. Like, "$3 for 16 bag spaces, runs out in 30 days". That kind of stuff sucks.
So, yeah - while $10 is a bit more than I'd like to see for bags.... between the decently large size (24 slots), the fact that it's not character-bound (so you won't lose it if you delete the character, unlike bank space), and the fact that you can earn zen in-game (unlike the cash currencies in many other f2ps); those factors make the $10 seem "a bit too expensive" rather than crazily over-priced. But, that's just my opinion. Obviously, other people feel differently. /shrug
(one additional thing that may be coloring my perception of the zen store value here, is that right before NWO I was trying out - big mistake! - an Aeria game. And the cash shop prices & practices there, make this one feel like a bargain flea market. Eek.)