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soulsofcreation
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 14 Arc User
Hey guys, I have a suggestion that's really quite simple. In the options, there should be an option that toggles XP gain. Simply a toggle between Receive EXP and Do Not Receive EXP would satisfy me. Although, I guess adding 50% EXP and 25% EXP would help some people though I find it quite pointless.
Why do we need this function? I don't know about you guys but I certainly need this function. Levels are quite a frustrating restriction in the game. They restrict the level at which you can enter Skirmishes and queue for Dungeons. Now, for people like me, I think I'm levelling too fast. I want to do the Throne of Idris dungeon after I finish Ebon Downs, not while I'm still talking to Galwyn Grist. These dungeons are based around the zones and their story. I don't want to do the dungeon before I've completed the zone's storyline but I'm forced to because I don't want to miss out on the queuing function and have to LFG the old-fashioned way. Yet, if I restrict myself to single-player content and storyline content and avoid fighting monsters as much as possible, I may even out in the end but it would mean limiting myself from playing Skirmishes, Dungeons, Foundry quests, etc. as it would give me unwanted EXP.
So, if you want to continue using level to restrict people, I would suggest this toggling function and it would give me a lot of peace of mind knowing that I can do PvP and Foundry as I please without having to worry about gaining too much EXP and not falling into the "sweet spot" of queuing when I want to.
Also, perhaps there could be a notification that EXP is turned off whenever you log in because you know there'll be players like me who forget that. And maybe a tri-daily mail that alerts you that EXP is turned off or something.
Hope you guys agree and I hope we will see this soon.
Why do we need this function? I don't know about you guys but I certainly need this function. Levels are quite a frustrating restriction in the game. They restrict the level at which you can enter Skirmishes and queue for Dungeons. Now, for people like me, I think I'm levelling too fast. I want to do the Throne of Idris dungeon after I finish Ebon Downs, not while I'm still talking to Galwyn Grist. These dungeons are based around the zones and their story. I don't want to do the dungeon before I've completed the zone's storyline but I'm forced to because I don't want to miss out on the queuing function and have to LFG the old-fashioned way. Yet, if I restrict myself to single-player content and storyline content and avoid fighting monsters as much as possible, I may even out in the end but it would mean limiting myself from playing Skirmishes, Dungeons, Foundry quests, etc. as it would give me unwanted EXP.
So, if you want to continue using level to restrict people, I would suggest this toggling function and it would give me a lot of peace of mind knowing that I can do PvP and Foundry as I please without having to worry about gaining too much EXP and not falling into the "sweet spot" of queuing when I want to.
Also, perhaps there could be a notification that EXP is turned off whenever you log in because you know there'll be players like me who forget that. And maybe a tri-daily mail that alerts you that EXP is turned off or something.
Hope you guys agree and I hope we will see this soon.
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The problem is that there would be people who would abuse this option in PvP to get ultra-twinked characters at lower levels. It would be fine if, once this option was ever activated, from then on in PvP (until level 60) you could only fight other people who had chosen this option themselves.
Otherwise I can see this begin abused to hell.
However, there are some possibilities for abuse and the PvP thing wouldn't even be the worst from Cryptics point of view I think.
You have that sort of stuff going on in a lot of MMOs and the devs don't usually put a stop to it.
I think the knock out argument against an XP lock are skirmishes.
The lvl 8 skirmish is brain dead easy and ultra fast, can do it in a few mins only. With an XP lock, you would invariably get twinks running skirmishes at top speeds during skirmish event times. When I last made a char, I got 7k AD out of the lvl 8 skirmish stumbling into it at some time after it started. No twinking involved.
I haven't looked too carefully into the optimization options for other skirmishes, but most people will know there are fast ones and slower ones (Vile Garrundar would be an example for a slow one).
The differences in skirmish performance don't really matter the way things are right now, because you level past them eventually (pretty quickly actually).
I have come to embrace the pretty quick leveling as far as quests are concerned and have started skipping zones. My dwarf cleric decided not to aid Company Yago for example (pretty much pirates those guys) while my GWF didn't care to go to Icespire peak (bloody cold, he's an half-elf not a snowman).
This way you are left with some variety if you want to play alts.
Sorry for the wall of text, but I have come to believe that XP-locks are more suitable for games like EQ2 or WoW where you might want to lock yourself into place to progress through all their dungeons at a challenge or to exhaust the loot tables or whatever. NW just isn't quite the same type of game.
That''s the whole point of twinking incase you've missed it .
Which is why it isn't fun for the non-twinked players.....
They could do with knocking 25% xp off the quest rewards and invocation so you're more likely to hit the dungeon queue at the end of that zone's arc rather than midway through being bumped up to the next one and being locked out of the one you have only just got the quest for.
Skirmishes could be limited to a certain number during the event before the extra AD's aren't awarded.
I've stopped doing foundries in an effort to try and avoid outlevelling instances whereas on my GF my plan is to level them almost purely in the instances and go back later to quest as a time filler.
It would be good to see although I suspect it would be done as a cash bought scroll that would be timed from the point of purchase.
On a related note, for future alts I plan to omit all official storyline quests and work my way through foundry campaigns.
Edit: erethizon, are you aware that you can enter dungeons manually through a gate in the zone when over leveled? At least some dungeons are fairly popular for this and you should be able to find a group in zone chat for it.
Though I must admit doing the same yesterday with a skirmish I needed to fill my 3 daily runs. Sat there with a sliver of xp missing waiting for the que to pop.
PFFFFFT, sorry but it totally depends on your gear.
Having carved out that pie-in-the-sky I should note that while golden age Cryptic was known for their scaling technology back in the day. Champions Online alerts seem to indicate that they have fired, lost or otherwise misplaced anyone who knew how to properly do that. So that lost skill will have to be reacquired if it is to be used here. But that would solve your problem and so many others.
You could group with friends regardless of level, do content of a wide variety of levels, and open up the game to the populace.
Why would a company who formerly saw such a benefit from this now abandon it entirely?
How the mighty have fallen.
- JailBreak (in development)
- JailBreak (in development)
I persist in my suggestion but to alleviate concerns of twinkers, perhaps "twinkers" could be separated to another PvP queue altogether. Or, the balancing system in PvP could account for this by trying to make sure that the teams have equal Gear Scores. I'm well aware that these measures are not perfect but the frustration they cause would be a lot less than that of this perplexing over-levelling problem.
I know. But there will be people who try. Still, it can be remedied.
Or just disable it in PvP so that any EXP gain in PvP can't be disabled.
While I'm thinking about it, it would be nice if Cryptic added in a way to voice chat without being in a party. :rolleyes: