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kerrigan666
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 66
First of all let me say that i have a GF and a CW all very well geared. I love the changes on both classes they helped GF be useful again and they nerfed some aspects of the CW that were clearly OP.
What I don't understand is some of the changes to Rogue and cleric but my biggest problem is the rogue.
Rogue is the only class that the ONLY useful thing that brought to the party is the insane single target DPS more than any other class could possibly do. Duelist's fury has been the one and only main skill of rogue for PVE damage. Rogues know very well that that skill is useless for PVP because it takes time to "charge" and if the other guy has a bit of a brain will have dodged out of the way before taking any damage. So please explain to me why was that skill nerfed? What else do you need a rogue for in a dungeon if not for killing the high hp targets and the boss. A CW brings a LOT more useful stuff to the party so even if his single target damage is now a bit less than the rogue he is still a better class to take over rogue. All you accomplished with this change is every boss to take longer now.
What prompted me to write this post is that yesterday, a CW did more single target dps than a 11.5k rogue with ancient weapons after they both agreed to stay only on the boss with no aoe( in spellplague). Before you start saying that that rogue was a **** I can assure you that he is not because I do CN with him often and he is a very skilled player.
The cleric now can't keep AS 100% of the time making him the weakest healer I have seen in any MMO. At least, if you are gonna do a nerf like that,give him a strong single target heal that can chain in 1 or more targets like in Tera. I understand this change from a pvp 20v20 standpoint but for pve that change is horrible.
TL;DR
Restore rogue duelist's fury to it's previous state because it is only useful in pve. Make cleric heal much more single target or restore AS 100% uptime.
What I don't understand is some of the changes to Rogue and cleric but my biggest problem is the rogue.
Rogue is the only class that the ONLY useful thing that brought to the party is the insane single target DPS more than any other class could possibly do. Duelist's fury has been the one and only main skill of rogue for PVE damage. Rogues know very well that that skill is useless for PVP because it takes time to "charge" and if the other guy has a bit of a brain will have dodged out of the way before taking any damage. So please explain to me why was that skill nerfed? What else do you need a rogue for in a dungeon if not for killing the high hp targets and the boss. A CW brings a LOT more useful stuff to the party so even if his single target damage is now a bit less than the rogue he is still a better class to take over rogue. All you accomplished with this change is every boss to take longer now.
What prompted me to write this post is that yesterday, a CW did more single target dps than a 11.5k rogue with ancient weapons after they both agreed to stay only on the boss with no aoe( in spellplague). Before you start saying that that rogue was a **** I can assure you that he is not because I do CN with him often and he is a very skilled player.
The cleric now can't keep AS 100% of the time making him the weakest healer I have seen in any MMO. At least, if you are gonna do a nerf like that,give him a strong single target heal that can chain in 1 or more targets like in Tera. I understand this change from a pvp 20v20 standpoint but for pve that change is horrible.
TL;DR
Restore rogue duelist's fury to it's previous state because it is only useful in pve. Make cleric heal much more single target or restore AS 100% uptime.
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@rogue the kill will just be a lot slower, not necessarily ruined. they still do good dps compared to other classes.
@cleric I main a cleric and I honestly don't feel the nerfs. Instead of two clerics we just take an extra cw and pew pew the same as before.
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Now that real skill comes into play players like OP instead of adapting flood forums with tears.
Zzzz.
You have no idea if I am skilled or not you are just making assumptions. I am still able to clear CN every day 3-4 times a day. Next time use your brain before making assumptions. Why do you WANT a boss to take longer? What will that accomplish? More wasted time?
Still tanking as Conq with no problems :P
Good for you then! Doesn't change anything other about my post. Bads are now exposed and have to improve or stay in T1, good players are rewarded with clear runs.
Anyone who supports nerfs is a silly silly person. Nerfs are the easy way for the DEV to fix a game to others players delight. How about fix the real issue with other classes.
The person crying NERF NERF now might be the person getting the NERF bat in the future.
Be careful for what you wish for.
inb4: "i play as a rogue and only use sly flourish and i rock, duelist flurry sucks and other attacks are totally viable!". no sorry, that's not true, if they deal comparable damage for you it means you're using flurry wrong.
Seriously, more offensive stuff for DC would be a waste. Can you see DC spending time DPSing in epic dungeon? You'll get kicked out of group ASAP or curtly told to stick to heals. Outside of generating Divine Power for which current tools are sufficient, cleric DPS is a joke because it serves no purpose outside of allowing you to crawl your way to 60 painfully. Healing improvements for PvP could include revamping completely Bastion and single target heals. Cut the CD on AS a bit so that with 4-5k recovery it can still be 100% up but leave the non-stacking and things will be better. Not fun still but improved.
@cleric - there is a skill in your book called Forgemaster's Flame , read what it does and use it to your advantage that is all .