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I think Neverwinter Online is a game with a lot of potential, plagued with bugs. I love the Foundry, I love the fact that it's filled with solo instances (my favorite kind of content). Heck, I just love the game. I'm not sure it'll live up to its potential - I suspect it will be much more solid in another six months - but it was my choice to play during Open Beta/Soft Launch and my choice to buy the Guardian Pack, neither of which I regret.
The aspect of the game I struggle with the most, though, comes down to how I've come to realize my time thinking about/playing the game is spent:
I know. I should stop reading the forums. I'm trying. The problem is that I like the idea of being part of the community, and there being a community to be a part of. It's just... difficult when the worst thing about the game isn't the bugs (and there are many) it's the community, itself. Hopefully that will change, as the more unhappy people move on and the community of ongoing players actually forms.
Am I the only one with this kind of experience?
The aspect of the game I struggle with the most, though, comes down to how I've come to realize my time thinking about/playing the game is spent:
- 75% Fun: Working through the PVE content, foundries, the occasional instance, slowly building up Leaderhip and saving Ardent/Celestial Coins.
- 10% Frustrating: Bugs! Bugs! Can't I even do the passive stuff, like Leadership or Invoking, without the Gateway being broken or my Celestial Coins buying a @#$@ party popper when I want a Coffer? @#$@#$
- 15% Anxiety/Depression: Reading the forums, and seeing the relentless negativity and entitlement. Posts that make me wonder how the devs can make themselves come to work every day, and why the players who feel so relentlessly angry and negative play at all.
I know. I should stop reading the forums. I'm trying. The problem is that I like the idea of being part of the community, and there being a community to be a part of. It's just... difficult when the worst thing about the game isn't the bugs (and there are many) it's the community, itself. Hopefully that will change, as the more unhappy people move on and the community of ongoing players actually forms.
Am I the only one with this kind of experience?
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People having fun typically spend more their time in game, not whining on the forums. Plus typically those on forums make up a small percentage of the overall playerbase.
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It's good to remember though that probably less than 5% of the players actually post here so there is hope yet
The longer games last the better the forums tend to be but every update is received negatively according to most game forums. Those who enjoy the content are enjoying it while the select few who aren't go on the forums.
That's not a law as there are many exceptions but it's a general rule. While the forum is an excellent source of information it can be highly misleading depending on the topic.
No you are not. Its easy to get sick of it. But don't let the forums drive you away from the game. The game is great (imo). Don't get me wrong, I disagree with some things. But I still have more fun playing than not.
Remember that people who post on the forums are often passionate about what they are trying to say (myself included). That doesn't make them correct though. And many go to far. Skipping the forums means losing out on a lot of info. But if its making you miserable its better to do that than quit the game itself.
I wouldn't say there's any way to do it "wrong" but you might have chosen a more difficult path than what you should have.
That's the problem with the F2P model. Accounts are essentially "throw away" because there is no need for any real investment (cash) by the player.
So an account can grief the forums to such an extent they get a ban, and a quick trip to g-mail or similar later the same person is back doing it again.
You tend not to get that where someone has had to stump up some real cash of their own, because an banned account is wasted money.
The F2P model is interesting, but will I suspect burn itself out pretty rapidly. The only F2P model I have seen that is actually any good at all is the LotRO one; which is why I was happy to invest real
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That's the problem with the F2P model. Accounts are essentially "throw away" because there is no need for any real investment (cash) by the player.
So an account can grief the forums to such an extent they get a ban, and a quick trip to g-mail or similar later the same person is back doing it again.
You tend not to get that where someone has had to stump up some real cash of their own, because an banned account is wasted money.
The F2P model is interesting, but will I suspect burn itself out pretty rapidly. The only F2P model I have seen that is actually any good at all is the LotRO one; which is why I was happy to invest real
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Ya why do you think MOre and more people are complaining about the game on the forum? Maybe because there are a hell of alot a problems with the game and they post about the issues they are having
Look at the last several years and releases of AAA MMOs, history has shown that forum "whiners" (such a nice term to try and belittle or diminish opinions one doesn't agree with) aren't such a minority after all. Huge population drops, games going from p2p to f2p, server mergers etc etc all seem to back the so called "whiners" much more than those claiming everything is perfect and it's just a select few that are unhappy.
Indeed. I hate when I bring up a valid problem, and get called a whiner for it. If you're complaining about someone else whining, doesn't that make you a whiner too? Food for thought. :cool:
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Gernerally the people that don't like the games just move on. The problems are still there, what remains are the people who can tolerate them. Eventually the forums become a giant circle jerk, of people reacting very negatively to any suggestion there might be problems.
LOL City Of Heroes. You have people that were so deep into the groupthink that they still insist nothing was wrong and it was making buckets of MONEY.
On the one hand, it is the textbook example of how to manage a forum, on the other other hand it's the textbook example of how to neutralize any players desire to provide feedback.
My frustration isn't with people expressing opinions - or frustration - on the forums. It's with hysterical doom-saying, rudeness, entitlement, and hyperbole. Like so many things, it's less the opinions, than how they're being expressed that's the issue.
As a zero-drama person who wants to treat people and see them treated with respect, I sometimes feel like a cryptid.
That is false. I am not sure why, but many people who are unhappy with certain game features whine, rage, and threaten to leave until it is fixed. Astoundingly, they never seem to make it to the actual leaving part until they see that nobody is even listening to them.
And in all seriousness, I know that the developers work very hard every day to bring us the wonderful game that is Neverwinter. It is filled with so much potential, and I can imagine how discouraging it would be to see your community... well, basically hate on you on a daily basis. I think that there should be an annual Developer Appreciation Day!
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I really don't know what you are trying to say here ? Is it your point that there are people that like the game enough that they will protest on the forums and when that doesn't do any good leave ?
Well from observation that is just a small part and most people just leave. This has already happened in this game and is ongoing.
An oldie but goodie:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE
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