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Why was this closed?

mackehmackeh Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
edited June 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
With reference to ..

http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?350641-So-did-this-patch-actually-fix-any-bugs-exploits

I didn't even start this post, but was replying to the CW aspects of it when it got closed. There wasn't any discussion about sharing exploits, and in fact the post was highlighting issues with the game, and in the OP's case his problems with CWs. He wrote eloquently about the problems for the CW, and also that certain aspects of 'short-cutting' were still very prevalent in NW .. closing his thread simply because you think that constitutes a 'discussion of exploits' is entirely ridiculous, and shutting off people from being able to share what you actually need to hear .. your fixes aren't fixed. Where's the harm in mentioning that the short-cuts people are using (with no detail, because no detail is required because they're used so extensively) that were largely meant to be fixed clearly haven't, and someone playing NW stating this fact on the forum? After all, don't you want to know that the things you've meant to have fixed are still there?

Considering the support for the game is mediocre at best, how else are players meant to pass on issues or share frustrations in the vague hope that it will be fixed before giving up with NW? There wasn't any discussion or sharing of exploits .. and clearly the mod hammer was being used in an out of context way. I think you made a mistake there, but then again perhaps even mentioning this now constitutes a post closure .. which in itself is ridiculous .. especially so soon before 'launch'.

Utterly baffling and masochistic ....
Mack


Blue Harvest
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Comments

  • assassin83assassin83 Member, Banned Users Posts: 276 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    The mod will close any Thread with the word "exploit"

    Make the post again without this word
  • mackehmackeh Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Nah, my post says what I think .. if they want to close this post due to another idiotic reason or knee-jerk reaction over a word (rather than content) that in the end harms both their product, its future, and our enjoyment at times, then so be it. Tbh it sums it up ..

    Meh ..
    Mack


    Blue Harvest
  • drakonlord56drakonlord56 Member Posts: 104 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Did you contact any of the Moderators to inquire about the closing? No, I guess not. You just went and made another thread complaining about the closing which is a violation of the forum rules. I suggest yo take the time to read them instead of making these mistakes.
  • mackehmackeh Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    drakonlord56 wrote: »
    Did you contact any of the Moderators to inquire about the closing? No, I guess not.

    Really? Hmm .. I actually sent something about this above them. So, yeah .. you can 'guess' all you like, it won't make you right.
    Mack


    Blue Harvest
  • bongstickbongstick Member Posts: 83
    edited June 2013
    Cool they closed my topic? The moderator in question is a bit trigger happy. Oh well, guess there is no way to let Cryptic know anything. I wonder if Cryptic orderd him to close it down just to mask the failure of this patch. It was suppose to fix stuff, but in reality it did not do much.

    EDIT:

    I love how the mod takes out my second post in that topic saying how the adds keep spawning at the first boss after sending him inside the crystal. i guess expressing frustration on the forum regarding a bug that has been annoying the majority of the players and causing them to skip the boss since DAY ONE is against the forum rules.
  • mackehmackeh Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    bongstick wrote: »
    Cool they closed my topic? The moderator in question is a bit trigger happy. Oh well, guess there is no way to let Cryptic know anything. I wonder if Cryptic orderd him to close it down just to mask the failure of this patch. It was suppose to fix stuff, but in reality it did not do much.

    Exactly my point, and clearly missed by some .. you have my support, for what it's worth. Heavy-handed, unsolicited moderating isn't productive, and certainly not in the case of your comments. I wouldn't mind so much, but I think most people make these comments to actually help and improve their product .. bizarre ..
    Mack


    Blue Harvest
  • UnknownUnknown
    edited June 2013
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  • chai23chai23 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    The beta excuse is about to die off.
  • nubgamernubgamer Member Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    chai23 wrote: »
    The beta excuse is about to die off.

    Indeed, with only 5 days left to "official" launch it is inexcusable for the number of bugs and imbalances that are currently still here.
  • khatzhaskhatzhas Member Posts: 268 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    bongstick wrote: »
    Cool they closed my topic? The moderator in question is a bit trigger happy. Oh well, guess there is no way to let Cryptic know anything. I wonder if Cryptic orderd him to close it down just to mask the failure of this patch. It was suppose to fix stuff, but in reality it did not do much.
    Given that there are posts going into much more detail about the general problems the recent patch caused that have been left alone, its more likely that it was closed due to breaking the rules, not as a cover-up conspiracy.
    Remember that you don't need to explain all about the exploit to promote it: simply telling people about it in enough detail that they can look for it on google is an no-no.
    The forums have less tolerance to exploit-based rule violations than they used to: understandable given the damage that was caused by people promoting and disseminating information on exploits.

    The in-game report you put in about the exploits will go to the people who actually fix these things hopefully.
  • mackehmackeh Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Yeah but it's not like people either know or are taught in-game about short-cuts etc at level 60 .. it's a rite of passage in NW it seems - not Learn2Play, but Learn2Glitch. It's not the player's fault .. it's there, and obvious, and prevalent in pretty much every dungeon etc. I do somewhat see what you're saying, but at the same time I think it's heavy-handed to arbitrarily close off discussion that was clearly meant to highlight an issue in the only way we have left right now. Contacting Customer Services or submitting a ticket is a joke, and often the forum is the only recourse. The last ticket I sent in about an exploit was closed and marked as 'resolved', then claimed to be fixed in a patch, and is still in the game to this day .. so clearly something isn't right whichever way you cut it.
    nubgamer wrote: »
    Indeed, with only 5 days left to "official" launch it is inexcusable for the number of bugs and imbalances that are currently still here.

    Indeed, and it seems absurd to close threads that attempt to highlight a recent fix they claim to have made, let alone the extra bonus bugs we now have. Still .. it's not like they need our feedback .. oh wait!

    Anyway, I've been trying to report issues since the 27th of April (and before in the closed beta), I know I'm not alone in that, and mostly been met with ineptitude. To me this closure sums up their current approach and outlook. Such a shame ..
    Mack


    Blue Harvest
  • rictrasrictras Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 239 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    Any threads that spread awareness of a particular exploit are no-nos, because less scrupulous players will then try to take advantage of it. The correct way to tell the developers about an exploit is through a report or a personal message.
    The meaning of life, is to give life meaning.
  • mackehmackeh Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    rictras wrote: »
    Any threads that spread awareness of a particular exploit are no-nos, because less scrupulous players will then try to take advantage of it. The correct way to tell the developers about an exploit is through a report or a personal message.

    The correct way, perhaps, but not in this game it seems ..
    mackeh wrote:
    The last ticket I sent in about an exploit was closed and marked as 'resolved', then claimed to be fixed in a patch, and is still in the game to this day .. so clearly something isn't right whichever way you cut it.

    Well, anyway, I guess I'm just getting tired of it ...
    Mack


    Blue Harvest
  • bongstickbongstick Member Posts: 83
    edited June 2013
    khatzhas wrote: »
    Given that there are posts going into much more detail about the general problems the recent patch caused that have been left alone, its more likely that it was closed due to breaking the rules, not as a cover-up conspiracy.
    Remember that you don't need to explain all about the exploit to promote it: simply telling people about it in enough detail that they can look for it on google is an no-no.
    The forums have less tolerance to exploit-based rule violations than they used to: understandable given the damage that was caused by people promoting and disseminating information on exploits.

    The in-game report you put in about the exploits will go to the people who actually fix these things hopefully.

    i never stated any details about the exploits. If other people did then the mod's job is to take those posts out of the topic. Like i said, this particular moderator is a bit trigger happy. And in my opinion he is not suited for this job.
  • ambisinisterrambisinisterr Member, Neverwinter Moderator Posts: 10,462 Community Moderator
    edited June 2013
    It was closed because you're trying to discuss exploits which will in turn get players to spread information about exploits.

    Exploits are never to be discussed in public as it simply causes more players to abuse them. Sorry if you disagree but this is something the moderators are very firm on.

    Reporting Exploits - The Right Way
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