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marlzmarlz Member Posts: 102
edited June 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
this isn't a rant or a QQ just stating my experience and what i see to be truth.

brought a reskill/trait token, can't change dice rolled starter stats which honestly blows cause by the time you hit 60 you have more understanding of what skills traits and stat you would want then lvl 1 at character creation screen.

and worse yet, 15$ for a green con pet, i was stupid enough to buy the hawk and thus take responsibility so i can not say i felt ripped off (well i do feel that way but i am aware this was totally my own doing)

When i could of just brought 5$ of zen and traded that for AD and brought a fire bird purple con companion which gets 10 lvls higher better stats and skills plus had spare AD over for gear and enchantments.......

anyway's small thing's like this is what keep throwing me off and discouraging me from playing and no that isn't i am going to leave threat cause i do log in pretty much dailie to craft incase this game gets to a point to keep me in for good, and so would rather get my crafting as high as possible for if/when that time comes.

so now i have a 15$ paper wight of a companion just collecting dust now while the one i got off AH was much better and cheaper, and i love my wis and have fairly decient gear at lvl 60 so rather not re-roll and to be frank id rather just stick to games like borderlands 2 then be forced to re-roll over something so small as a few stats, but at the same time the concept of having 2% less critical then I could and having 2% of sheer uselessness in its place just kills the desire for me.

this same <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> pretty much happened in star trek online with the race feats, it took them multiply years to finnaly do some thing about it and make it changeable, but yeh, I am not going to wait around and "hope" when there is other games out there that are fair in terms of small things such as this.
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  • hkiewahkiewa Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 379 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    Cool story....bro....
  • czarkazmczarkazm Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    stop making bad choices or learn to live with them?
  • phatbodyphatbody Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt
  • raal1raal1 Member Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    You have some very valid points and I'm sure many other people feel the same way. The cash shop prices are way off and the new price plan does little to resolve this.
  • marlzmarlz Member Posts: 102
    edited June 2013
    phatbody wrote: »
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt

    sure i can agree to that and as for though silence gets you no where and these are a few things i personally feel need to be adressed

    "stop making bad choices or learn to live with them?"

    I admited where i went wrong and as for learn to live with them? well i haven't quit so get off your high horse please, just because i made a bad choice and fessed up to it doesn't mean my view is of any less value then any other person.

    mostly at this point it is simple not being able to re-roll the dice score and pressured to re-rolling from zero and losing everything ingame iv worked for and the cash iv spent on that wis, and honestly, i value "my time" then i value the context of my wallet, so i am more then willing to "pay for the service" of re-rolling dice stats, but I am not willing to waste my time on some thing I have already done once over.
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  • cyresofbsgocyresofbsgo Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I bought Zen (for the +15%)

    and was brouseing the games I play that use it (Champions, already have everything I need/want, untill they bring out a new item that's NOT a vehicle) (Star Trek Online, only need things that I can get for my lifer stipend in 1-3 months) (Neverwinter, want outfit... but to expensive for a single unlock even on sale, want some of the companions but to expensive for single unlock, would get a mount, but to expensive even on sale, there are other odds/ends in NW I would like, or actualy NEED includeing the bags, but... again to expensive for single unlock, dyes to expensive for only 4 even on sale, dye packs, to expensive even on sale.)

    long story short? I left all zen I bought today in my wallet, to transfer, ether when STO/CO get more things added that I want, OR, NW's prices are set more REASONABLY!!! (frakking look at the prices in STO/CO for reference to "reasonable", **** prices in NW are double or more on anything that's comparable, other than character slots, and I already bought NW slots up to 11, I don't have the time to even invoke on all toons, so no need to actually get more UNLESS, more classes are released. but THEN I'm also sitting on enough Zen in NW to get 2 more toon slots as is, so it would have to be a FEW MORE char classes before I transfer from wallet to cover that.)
  • ruinedmirageruinedmirage Member Posts: 440 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    d1487e40c07c012fdd30001dd8b71c47

    I remember roleplaying in games a long time ago online. Of course that was almost 20 years ago before they attached numbers to everything you did to record your "fun".
  • mackehmackeh Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Check the official Twitter, there's a statement on there about permanent price reductions in the Zen market ..

    https://twitter.com/neverwintergame#

    "Neverwinter ‏@NeverwinterGame 19h
    Permanent price reductions in #Neverwinter Zen Market incoming, all thanks to your feedback: http://nw.perfectworld.com/news/?p=912801 . pic.twitter.com/TIUQyxPVVy"
  • marlzmarlz Member Posts: 102
    edited June 2013
    mackeh wrote: »
    Check the official Twitter, there's a statement on there about permanent price reductions in the Zen market ..

    https://twitter.com/neverwintergame#

    "Neverwinter ‏@NeverwinterGame 19h
    Permanent price reductions in #Neverwinter Zen Market incoming, all thanks to your feedback: http://nw.perfectworld.com/news/?p=912801 . pic.twitter.com/TIUQyxPVVy"

    thats cool and all, but my point i was trying to make isn't how much it cost per say that aspect doesn't phase me, it's more the smaller things such as trading zen out right and only 5$ worth gets me the equvilent of a 30/35$ companion.

    i have gotten the fire bird so that is out of the way and dealt with, no my only real issue is the stats re-roll =x
    like i said the cash aspect doesn't bother me if it was even possible to change this aspect with out deleting my wis and starting from start, i have honestly never been in a situation where i have not wanted to quit a game and keep playing it but feel like there is little point in the long run, anyway's from raal1 down thanks for the input and not being a smart *** about it, i wasn't gonna even point it out but as can seen above by a few posters of gamers in this community, i really hate to say it but....this is both an un-friendly community and so much trash talk or sheer elitism is another aspect why i rather not log on and play for long periods of time or invest cash into it.
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  • cyresofbsgocyresofbsgo Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    mackeh wrote: »
    Check the official Twitter, there's a statement on there about permanent price reductions in the Zen market ..

    https://twitter.com/neverwintergame#

    "Neverwinter ‏@NeverwinterGame 19h
    Permanent price reductions in #Neverwinter Zen Market incoming, all thanks to your feedback: http://nw.perfectworld.com/news/?p=912801 . pic.twitter.com/TIUQyxPVVy"

    that's nice and all, but STILL, those are the sale prices I mentioned that are higher than permanent price should be.... and the permanent "low" they are planing will be higher than the sale price that's to high.
  • khatzhaskhatzhas Member Posts: 268 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    marlz wrote: »
    thats cool and all, but my point i was trying to make isn't how much it cost per say that aspect doesn't phase me, it's more the smaller things such as trading zen out right and only 5$ worth gets me the equvilent of a 30/35$ companion.
    The issue with the Phoera prices is that PWE doesn't set them. The players do. It is the player-driven economy that has dropped the effective price of that purple companion below that of the hawk.
    It is understandable that you are annoyed that you didn't check the Auction house before buying the companion from the zen store, but that isn't really PWE's fault.

    Regarding the respec tokens, neither of them state that they will let you reroll your character creation abilities. If people don't think that the Power respec token is worth the money to just respec your powers, they simply won't buy it. At which point PWE will likely take a look at the pricing.
  • banecrushrbanecrushr Member Posts: 129 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    I do have to agree with the OP, purchasing a respec token for well cash and then you can't really reroll <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>... It would be better if they aloowed you to put points where ever YOU wanted them..you are in fact paying for that service or so we all thought?
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  • xellizxelliz Member Posts: 955 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    that's nice and all, but STILL, those are the sale prices I mentioned that are higher than permanent price should be.... and the permanent "low" they are planing will be higher than the sale price that's to high.

    This. I mean, thanks for the discounts, but the entire store needs a 50% reduction, permanently.
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