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nymesis92
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 270 Bounty Hunter
Hey bros are you guys ready for this patch? Cleric here, I sure am ready for you bros to be able to tank stuff :-) :-)
I'm gonna be sooo happpppppy.
your friendly cleric.
I'm gonna be sooo happpppppy.
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You obviously dont play a GF.... Making a comment like that is so ignorant I bet you're a TR player who thinks that TR need buffs lol
Being able to taunt the trash and mini-bosses isn't difficult. What is difficult is finding a reason for a GF to do these things, when Cleric's Astral Shield coupled with healing threat made "try-hard" GFs obsolete.
To answer the OP's question, yup, I'm very ready to have the juggernaut-tanking style be viable.
Reticle not rectal.
Your ignorance is showing.
Clerics can't stand and tank 20+ mobs beating on them even in their AS. This is why they kite the mobs around, while a GF can stand in a AS and mitigate the damage "TANK". While the rest of the team burns the trash down.
Boss fights - The GF can ether focus on trash or boss.
I'm a high DPS GF and so I stay on the boss and hold aggro so the TR can focus on DPS. This means much faster boss kills and more runs per DD.
I sure hope that GF will be able to adjust from a DPS mindset to a Tank defense mindset... Most GFs I've run with seemed to think that they were a boss tank and ignored the 50 adds eating my cleric alive.
Some encounters we'll be on trash and others on the boss. Just depends on how your team is handling the boss/trash.
Look up unspecifiederror's Cleric tank build. I find it funny that you're calling me ignorant when you think, in the current build of the game, that a GF sitting in a Cleric's Astral Shield makes a better TANK than a "tanky" Cleric sitting inside his and the "healer" Cleric's stacked Astral Shields.
With the changes in the upcoming patch, your version of how including a GF is a better decision than what I've outlined will make sense.
Currently it doesn't. If you wish to keep preaching about how GF is the best 4th or 5th slot-filler in a group (in the current build), be my guest. However, to call someone ignorant for stating the truth about how the vast majority of NW's community views the usefulness of GFs is ignorant, in and of itself.
Reticle not rectal.
It all just comes down to what is needed for each fight. I will guarantee that most fights, you dont need a tank but now the tank will easily get agro without even trying...
A TON of GFs are specced for damage because there is NO reason not to be. I have a feeling that more GFs will start picking up more "tanky" stats to counter the fact that they will be getting hit more and having agro more.
But as for "tanking" it doesnt exist in this game... Not yet anyways... Youll know when it does because Cryptic will make each dungeon REQUIRE a tank and youll start seeing "LF GF/DC for XXXX run" in zone chat Instead of these 2DC/2CW/1TR set ups.
The patch WILL fix some of this, but still a GF is not REQUIRED. double TR groups wont work and double DC groups wont work as well as before, but thats about it...
Maybe... just maybe this will be the GWF job now... then again maybe not...
Small note for any GF thinking going defensive is smart, its truely not, sure you can go down the protector line, but stacking defense is plain silly if you're in t1 armor, stalwart for example, with its set bonuses you'll reach 3.2k-3.3k defense, this is absolutely fine for any game content, anything higher is when you start to get diminishing returns. It'll take between 200-350 defense points to gain 0.1% protection increase which genuinely is pointless, which is why so many GF's are in the dps mindset simply because defense scales so poorly after.
This.
Agro with Conq will be much better then Prot/Tact AND neither of those specs take that much less damage. Defense hits heavy DR very very fast. You can't even really gear for it.
4pc timeless +shield with no other gear and no enchants is something like 41% damage reduction.
Regen and lifesteal need to be looked at because Defense stacking is horribly inefficient. Deflect is alright but regen and lifesteal on gear is just wasting room on items at the moment.
I play a GWF so forgive me if I miss your point.
I have 5% regen and roughly 5% life steal. I constantly have green splash on my screen and it makes a huge difference in survivability and threat generation. Why would you not want that?
We have a block feature and a daily which is very easy to generate with using the said block feature + Knight's Valor now that its fixed which usually either fills the ap meter to full or 3/4. Now for the daily, with high enough dps we can go from 10% to max hp in one combo with the feat points etc invested into Fighters recovery.
5%/5% is a lot of stat points. I'd have to make a lot of weird gear choices to hit that on a GF without dumping a lot of dps.
How do you quantify the threat gain for you?
I have a daily that if I use it in conjunction with my aoe taunt will heal me for ~30k. It doesn't make a noticeable difference in agro if I use the daily or not.
It was easier to tell the threat build at lower levels. Almost non existent at higher levels.
2 piece scrappers/bladestorm gives me plenty of both before even looking at the right side of my character sheet or before enchantments.