I don't see any where in the PTR notes of this bug being fixed but apparently when the match is over, meaning a team has won, there are players that are exploiting by bypassing the program (Assuming its an Macro), to freely move around after... doing a certain attack. This seems to be always present with Rogues and Mages popping a certain attack and being able to continue to attack you and kill you.
By doing this, when you leave the PvP area dead or going to die with DoTs (Damage over time effects) you get an *Injury* which is basically 20 silver using a repair kit if you enjoy PvPing alot.
I don't expect "Perfect World" to do anything about it like "Arenanet" which banns people for things like this, but this HAMSTER is getting old and I have wasted way over 10 gold over this exploit.
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tang56Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 0Arc User
Or you could stand next to a campfire for 15 mins.
Again if you enjoy PvP you will use the repair kit. Also forcing someone to sit at a camp for 15 minutes due to an exploit to keep attacking people, after a match is over, is an exploit and people should be banned for it, but that's not my call.
Poor argument mate.
Edit: Before anyone asks or be smart monkey about it, the "Combat Log" will no longer register the attacks against you, once a match is over, meaning while you are dieing while watching the player kill you. So its not like I can post what player or what attack, did the final blow to kill me.
I don't see any where in the PTR notes of this bug being fixed but apparently when the match is over, meaning a team has won, there are players that are exploiting by bypassing the program (Assuming its an Macro), to freely move around after... doing a certain attack. This seems to be always present with Rogues and Mages popping a certain attack and being able to continue to attack you and kill you.
By doing this, when you leave the PvP area dead or going to die with DoTs (Damage over time effects) you get an *Injury* which is basically 20 silver using a repair kit if you enjoy PvPing alot.
I don't expect "Perfect World" to do anything about it like "Arenanet" which banns people for things like this, but this HAMSTER is getting old and I have wasted way over 10 gold over this exploit.
I believe its at wills. Im a cw and i noticed if im using at wills they can keep going after timer, i normally stop unless its a TR lol. SInce they have a ranged at will as well im assuming this is why you are seeing those two classes do it. I would assume clerics could do it as well with their at wills. Not sure if that is the case but from my experience its not a macro.
I don't see any where in the PTR notes of this bug being fixed but apparently when the match is over, meaning a team has won, there are players that are exploiting by bypassing the program (Assuming its an Macro), to freely move around after... doing a certain attack. This seems to be always present with Rogues and Mages popping a certain attack and being able to continue to attack you and kill you.
By doing this, when you leave the PvP area dead or going to die with DoTs (Damage over time effects) you get an *Injury* which is basically 20 silver using a repair kit if you enjoy PvPing alot.
I don't expect "Perfect World" to do anything about it like "Arenanet" which banns people for things like this, but this HAMSTER is getting old and I have wasted way over 10 gold over this exploit.
It's At wills only, and you have to be holding, and continue to hold the button when the match ends. And it's not an exploit, it's a bug. You simply have to wait for it to respawn you before hitting the exit and problem solved. You're complaint is trivial at best since I figured the solution out the first time it happened to me and it has cost me 0 currency.
10g isn't a legitimate complaint since it's your own stupidity that cost you that 10g, not someone else thinking it's funny that they are still hitting you.
An exploit would have to give the exploiter a benefit that (s)he otherwise wouldn't get. Since all this does is give a player a minor inconvenience, it's a bug, not an exploit. It'd be different if it gave the exploiter an extra 500 glory, etc.
An exploit would have to give the exploiter a benefit that (s)he otherwise wouldn't get. Since all this does is give a player a minor inconvenience, it's a bug, not an exploit. It'd be different if it gave the exploiter an extra 500 glory, etc.
Exploit can mean alot of things, yes you are right its a bug, but the exploit is, for players that dont take PvP serious, rather sit 15 minutes each time the exploit is done.
So yes there is a benefit, they can PvP, but you have to wait 15 minutes. Another poor argument on your part.
Edit: Let's not forget, waiting around 15 minutes which queues the AFK warning, is not particularly enjoying the game now is it?
Edit #2: Oh and I particulaly forgot about the most famous bug, the "Kick me from group from no porting to PvP zone" that's even more down time.
So you see... that is another benefit for using this bug to exploit the PvP system.
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eggylisk99Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited June 2013
It was already established that you could just wait to respawn before exiting the arena. You wouldn't have to go through the 15 minute wait. Your whole argument above is pointless.
It was already established that you could just wait to respawn before exiting the arena. You wouldn't have to go through the 15 minute wait. Your whole argument above is pointless.
Nothing pointless about it, its still an exploit, just because you suggest to wait after a match for the respawn, then drop group, doesn't mean or allow a player that play Rogue and Mage class to continue to use the bug over and over. I fail to see your point.
Edit: Like how people got caught "Stacking Items" to do over 10s of millions of damage. Are you going to throw at me, not my fault for "Clever Game Mechanics"?
An exploit would have to give the exploiter a benefit that (s)he otherwise wouldn't get. Since all this does is give a player a minor inconvenience, it's a bug, not an exploit. It'd be different if it gave the exploiter an extra 500 glory, etc.
This. It is a bug for crying out loud, not an exploit. It is a fashion these days to just point everything as an "exploit".
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eggylisk99Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited June 2013
Seeing as no one agrees with you and you reject any advise given to remedy your problem, yes you do indeed fail.
This. It is a bug for crying out loud, not an exploit. It is a fashion these days to just point everything as an "exploit".
I very well and simply pointed out the advantages of using this bug over and over to gain an advantage in PvP. Whether you share the same view of it or not, a continue use of a bug will be deemed an exploit. I think what I am seeing here in these posts, are people that are using this same bug, whether it be for fun, being a jerk, or getting the final blow; or people that are bored with the game and hanging out in forums.
Either way, this very same bug is actually being accounted for, for the PvP achievements. Looking at the list here. So there's... another benefit.
Seeing as no one agrees with you and you reject any advise given to remedy your problem, yes you do indeed fail.
Its a bug used as an exploit that I posted on forums that is annoying, because I can't properly submit a bug report because I have no idea how the bug works in the first place other than watching players attack me and kill me, but its always seems to be a Rogue and Mage attack, and the combat log doesn't work. Yet people like you are on the defense because either you are using the bug or... just looking to "Troll".
Yet I am the "fail"? Perhaps you need to double check on that.
you can also wait the respawn in the arena before clicking "exit arena", you'll get ressed whitout an injury.
Thank you! I have often been injured after a pvp match and had to use a repair kit, the answer is so simple but I was too dense to figure it out, haha.
Thank you! I have often been injured after a pvp match and had to use a repair kit, the answer is so simple but I was too dense to figure it out, haha.
I guess people like cheating, can't win without it. Kinda sad for people that claim to be PvPers.
i wasn't saying it isn't a bug, but it's quickly fixed on your part by just waiting 5-20 sec top. that probably puts it pretty low on cryptic's to-do list.
besides, it only occurs after the match is over, it basically allows you to keep doing whatever you were doing when the match ends, if you were attacking someone you cna keep attacking. it doesn't do anything towards winning or losing, at most you can troll someone with it.
I guess people like cheating, can't win without it. Kinda sad for people that claim to be PvPers.
This has been the history ov PVP in every game ever. I don't know why companies continue to ruin their games by trying to cater to them any more.
Also, yes it's an exploit . . . an exploit is define by abusing a bug to gain an in game advantage . . .any in game advantage no matter how small, even if it's being first in the queue for the next round and that's all. The people abusing it should get a hand slap 24 hour ban, then 72 hour ban, then a perma ban, just like any other cheater.
This has been the history ov PVP in every game ever. I don't know why companies continue to ruin their games by trying to cater to them any more.
You are right of course. I mean, we haven't had any exploits in NW on the pve side have we? Nope, its all those dirty pvpers, and yes look below at the long list of mmos that have been ruined by companies catering to this tiny part of the playerbase that are nothing but a curse on the community:
Um, actually there are none, but lets not get caught on little details like that. The point is the firm should put its foot down and stop accommodating these pvpers that stoop to game-breaking exploits like auto-attacking after the match ends, I mean it wastes up to 20 secs of my time! Its a travesty!
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eggylisk99Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
Its a bug used as an exploit that I posted on forums that is annoying, because I can't properly submit a bug report because I have no idea how the bug works in the first place other than watching players attack me and kill me, but its always seems to be a Rogue and Mage attack, and the combat log doesn't work. Yet people like you are on the defense because either you are using the bug or... just looking to "Troll".
Yet I am the "fail"? Perhaps you need to double check on that.
Me on the defensive? If you look at the thread, you're the one on the defensive. And you're accusing me of "exploiting"? What's your basis? You're emotions? You're over-reacting over a bug that we've all pointed out how you can avoid. Stop acting like a stubborn fool.
I guess people like cheating, can't win without it. Kinda sad for people that claim to be PvPers.
My god... people have told you what to do so that it doesn't happen, It literally takes 2-20 seconds to wait for a respawn. Is it a bug that should be fixed? Yes. Is it game-breaking in any way? Not at all.
I guess people like cheating, can't win without it. Kinda sad for people that claim to be PvPers.
Considering by the time you can complain about this they've already won the match I fail to see how it's cheating. Just seems like someone is butthurt they got owned and salt poured in the wound. So instead of just waiting about 20 seconds to revive you'd rather exit and spend silver or wait 15 mins just for the illusion it gives you something to complain about. It's because people like to whine that others get enjoyment off of this to begin with.
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Again if you enjoy PvP you will use the repair kit. Also forcing someone to sit at a camp for 15 minutes due to an exploit to keep attacking people, after a match is over, is an exploit and people should be banned for it, but that's not my call.
Poor argument mate.
Edit: Before anyone asks or be smart monkey about it, the "Combat Log" will no longer register the attacks against you, once a match is over, meaning while you are dieing while watching the player kill you. So its not like I can post what player or what attack, did the final blow to kill me.
I believe its at wills. Im a cw and i noticed if im using at wills they can keep going after timer, i normally stop unless its a TR lol. SInce they have a ranged at will as well im assuming this is why you are seeing those two classes do it. I would assume clerics could do it as well with their at wills. Not sure if that is the case but from my experience its not a macro.
Not the point.
It's At wills only, and you have to be holding, and continue to hold the button when the match ends. And it's not an exploit, it's a bug. You simply have to wait for it to respawn you before hitting the exit and problem solved. You're complaint is trivial at best since I figured the solution out the first time it happened to me and it has cost me 0 currency.
10g isn't a legitimate complaint since it's your own stupidity that cost you that 10g, not someone else thinking it's funny that they are still hitting you.
Nope, still an exploit since it was not intended.
Exploit can mean alot of things, yes you are right its a bug, but the exploit is, for players that dont take PvP serious, rather sit 15 minutes each time the exploit is done.
So yes there is a benefit, they can PvP, but you have to wait 15 minutes. Another poor argument on your part.
Edit: Let's not forget, waiting around 15 minutes which queues the AFK warning, is not particularly enjoying the game now is it?
Edit #2: Oh and I particulaly forgot about the most famous bug, the "Kick me from group from no porting to PvP zone" that's even more down time.
So you see... that is another benefit for using this bug to exploit the PvP system.
Nothing pointless about it, its still an exploit, just because you suggest to wait after a match for the respawn, then drop group, doesn't mean or allow a player that play Rogue and Mage class to continue to use the bug over and over. I fail to see your point.
Edit: Like how people got caught "Stacking Items" to do over 10s of millions of damage. Are you going to throw at me, not my fault for "Clever Game Mechanics"?
This. It is a bug for crying out loud, not an exploit. It is a fashion these days to just point everything as an "exploit".
I very well and simply pointed out the advantages of using this bug over and over to gain an advantage in PvP. Whether you share the same view of it or not, a continue use of a bug will be deemed an exploit. I think what I am seeing here in these posts, are people that are using this same bug, whether it be for fun, being a jerk, or getting the final blow; or people that are bored with the game and hanging out in forums.
Either way, this very same bug is actually being accounted for, for the PvP achievements. Looking at the list here. So there's... another benefit.
Its a bug used as an exploit that I posted on forums that is annoying, because I can't properly submit a bug report because I have no idea how the bug works in the first place other than watching players attack me and kill me, but its always seems to be a Rogue and Mage attack, and the combat log doesn't work. Yet people like you are on the defense because either you are using the bug or... just looking to "Troll".
Yet I am the "fail"? Perhaps you need to double check on that.
Thank you! I have often been injured after a pvp match and had to use a repair kit, the answer is so simple but I was too dense to figure it out, haha.
I guess people like cheating, can't win without it. Kinda sad for people that claim to be PvPers.
besides, it only occurs after the match is over, it basically allows you to keep doing whatever you were doing when the match ends, if you were attacking someone you cna keep attacking. it doesn't do anything towards winning or losing, at most you can troll someone with it.
This has been the history ov PVP in every game ever. I don't know why companies continue to ruin their games by trying to cater to them any more.
Also, yes it's an exploit . . . an exploit is define by abusing a bug to gain an in game advantage . . .any in game advantage no matter how small, even if it's being first in the queue for the next round and that's all. The people abusing it should get a hand slap 24 hour ban, then 72 hour ban, then a perma ban, just like any other cheater.
You are right of course. I mean, we haven't had any exploits in NW on the pve side have we? Nope, its all those dirty pvpers, and yes look below at the long list of mmos that have been ruined by companies catering to this tiny part of the playerbase that are nothing but a curse on the community:
Um, actually there are none, but lets not get caught on little details like that. The point is the firm should put its foot down and stop accommodating these pvpers that stoop to game-breaking exploits like auto-attacking after the match ends, I mean it wastes up to 20 secs of my time! Its a travesty!
Me on the defensive? If you look at the thread, you're the one on the defensive. And you're accusing me of "exploiting"? What's your basis? You're emotions? You're over-reacting over a bug that we've all pointed out how you can avoid. Stop acting like a stubborn fool.
My god... people have told you what to do so that it doesn't happen, It literally takes 2-20 seconds to wait for a respawn. Is it a bug that should be fixed? Yes. Is it game-breaking in any way? Not at all.
Considering by the time you can complain about this they've already won the match I fail to see how it's cheating. Just seems like someone is butthurt they got owned and salt poured in the wound. So instead of just waiting about 20 seconds to revive you'd rather exit and spend silver or wait 15 mins just for the illusion it gives you something to complain about. It's because people like to whine that others get enjoyment off of this to begin with.
You can atk if you dont release the atk button... Quit before you die or ress in arena, problem solved.