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Need more nerf on gf!!

vaam3vaam3 Member Posts: 45 Arc User
edited June 2013 in The Militia Barracks
i think the guys on this game the are just make fun with ppl who play gf!!!

i cant believe that we are the most broken class and the only thing they give us is 35% more threat and 10% block!!

so...lets see...we are at a boss and spawn adds...we aggro around 20 adds even we get hit by 1 per add we ll die in 5 sec...

still boss no need tank
still adds ll be kite

still gf is useless in this game !!

TY PW !
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  • supjeremiahsupjeremiah Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 569 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    Your title asks for a nerf but your post implies you want a buff. Hrmm.
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  • boliveira82boliveira82 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    supjeremiah wrote: »
    Your title asks for a nerf but your post implies you want a buff. Hrmm.

    It's called irony,and he is 100% correct.
  • vaam3vaam3 Member Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    irony indeed....if pw want to make gf worthing on this games,,,have to change all the game...or make gf pure dps class to...

    this game dont need tank !
  • dkcandydkcandy Member Posts: 1,555 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    vaam3 wrote: »
    irony indeed....if pw want to make gf worthing on this games,,,have to change all the game...or make gf pure dps class to...

    this game dont need tank !

    See there is your Problem. You are playing your GF as a TANK vs. a DPS Class.
  • vaam3vaam3 Member Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    no i play my gf as dps class...but have no mean cuase always tr ll do more dps and cw ll do cc...so why one grp prefer gf instead of any other class?
  • dkcandydkcandy Member Posts: 1,555 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    vaam3 - GF is a tanky DPS class that can taunt and turn a bad situation around. With a "good" GF in your group, you'll have a high success rate.

    Gimmick teams are weak to situations and have a high rate of failure and why you see so many whiners on forums about not completing runs. There are 5 classes for a reason.
  • spacejewspacejew Member Posts: 1,044 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    It's pretty sad that I see Rogue's tanking in most instances. Maybe it's just because GF aggro isn't where it needs to be, but the fact that the Rogue can tank at all has got to be exceedingly painful as a GF. Can't match Rogue tanking, can't match Rogue damage, can't really do much of anything at all.

    That being said, I've seen some amazing GF that do tons of damage in an instance. I imagine they beat crappy rogues on occasion, and with a team that knows how to concentrate mobs for a GF to hit multiple mobs it can be a powerhouse, but what are the odd's of finding a team that knows how to concentrate and kill mobs? I'd say roughly 10-15% of PUG groups understand this.

    Personally, I'd rather not have a GF in my team simply because GF seem to believe all thier little knockbacks somehow help. They don't. It makes it harder for literally every DPS class to burn the mob. Unless there's some reason to knock them, like an interrupt or send them off a cliff, FFS don't use your knockbacks.
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  • dkcandydkcandy Member Posts: 1,555 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    spacejew - Some of our KND is high dmg skills and why they are used. But knd a target away from your rogue or out of the AoE is just bad play by the GF.

    Playing a GF is like playing Alistar in LOL, you can troll your own team and most inexperienced players do.

    The only time you should be knocking targets away is to protect your team, CC Target or add a damage buff as some targets can't be knocked back.
  • spacejewspacejew Member Posts: 1,044 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    dkcandy wrote: »
    spacejew - Some of our KND is high dmg skills and why they are used. But knd a target away from your rogue or out of the AoE is just bad play by the GF.

    Playing a GF is like playing Alistar in LOL, you can troll your own team and most inexperienced players do.

    The only time you should be knocking targets away is to protect your team, CC Target or add a damage buff as some targets can't be knocked back.

    I am aware of those facts, and yes GF can quite definitely troll their team with knock back. It's one of the myriad reasons why no one at all wants them in a group. At least when CW do it they destroy entire groups of add's, a GF just annoys both the mobs and the party.
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  • dkcandydkcandy Member Posts: 1,555 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    It's the same reason why people cringe when someone select alistar. :P

    But don't blame the class, blame the player.
  • abombination247abombination247 Member Posts: 1,279 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    I think every group should have to have a GF and DC in a group. At least how it should be when you que. They should be there and needed. You need a tank and a healer. Rest should be doing dps and this should be the makeup of every single dungeon raid period if that's not how it is then PvE is broke till it is. Now I do say this as mainly a PvPer and a GF. I do PvE with guild only when they say hey wanna do a DD. I just don't que for pugs cause I expect to see a DC there and every pug que should have that basic makeup. GF/DC rest dps.

    When you que you should have to select. Tank/healer/dps Then the system should take it from there and make up a proper group.
  • kargisterkargister Member Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    The real reason rogues can tank is simple. Movement. Not only do they get to dodge, but one of their main feats increases their movement for avoiding those red circles. GF's? They get block which won't keep them alive in red circles for hardly any time at all. Even worse, some of the animations are so slow that if you start moving when the boss circles you, you may not make it out of the circle in time.

    Give GFs all the threat in the world, it won't matter if they're dead in red, and block doesn't keep them alive in that as it stands.
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