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chronomancer
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Mwhahaha ....!
http://nw.perfectworld.com/news/?p=907501
- Players may no longer be kicked from PvP maps unless they are disconnected.
- Players must now participate in a PvP match to qualify for its rewards.
- The rewards for losing a PvP match have been lowered.
- PvP matches that go by much more quickly than expected now give fewer rewards.
http://nw.perfectworld.com/news/?p=907501
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If 1 player on a team is AFK , then they whole team suffers since they can not be kicked and replaced
If some one fails to port they can not be kicked to allow for them to be reset, just login in and out does not fix this problem on the players end, but at least the team will be able to replace the member when they log out, though when the player logs in they will still be stuck.
A whole new griefing will start to happen, people will just go into matches not caring about winning just so they can lower the reward of the opposite team since the "faster" matches give less reward.
If your team is trying but are totally out geared by the other team (this happens a lot in Level 60 matches), you will suffer. They need to change ques at 60 by gear score Regular, t1, t2 - make them separate ques so that your are only able to face an equal scored team.
They do nothing to fix the issue if you get disconnected but log right back in to the map that even when your team hasn't kicked you you get the no longer on team leaving in 5 second problem, which then leads to the cant port issue.
This also does nothing to fix the BOT issue which is still running rampant, and now we cant even replace the BOT since they cant be kicked.
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Aside from that what does participate mean? Getting points? Do you still get points for being attacked while afk?
If vote kick isn't coming then maybe a surrender vote? People just give up sometimes and that's also annoying.
If the BOT doesn't benefit of running this they won't do it. You don't run a BOT with 0 benefit.
Don't forget the BOT thing where they just run to mid and attack each other - still getting points - but not really helping the team especially if your trying to use strategy. Also half the times those bots don't even fight ON the stone, so you cant even say "leave mid to the bots" anymore, which for a while was an actual working strategy when the BOT were at their worst
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I think you don't know bots very well.
I've seen this and this is how it will happen...
Programmed Bot will spawn, run out with the team, head to middle objective and spam LMB over and over at closest target. It dies and it respawns, runs back out and does the same thing. ONLY DIFFERENCE IS>>>>>>>YOU CAN'T KICK THEM NOW! THANKS PWE YOU FAIL!!!!!!
As for kicking people...I was in a 10-19 match and some dude with a BP of 200/180 was having a hernia because our team wasn't doing well and we were losing. He was already rude, cynical and outright disrespectful to the team. At last, he turns to the team (it wasn't that we weren't trying, it was more that our team had a bunch of level 10's and 11's and they were stacked with pure 19's) and said: "Learn2play nubcakes...I f*&king swear!"
I had it at that point and 'abused' my privileged as leader. It made me smile that he ZERO glory or xp for that match. My inner child had a party. My team gracefully lost, at about 800 - 103 we stopped going down, the match ended quickly and we moved on.
Still, it *was* an abuse of authority, but it was NEEDED because in the 10-19 bracket, all you CAN do is learn. Learn from other players and learn the objectives and strats of the map. No need to berate your team. I didn't care that I abused it, and I so rarely (outside of members who didn't get in) kick anyone unless they are a bot.
This fix didn't fix anything, but created a WHOLE new mess of problems.
GG PWE...Again, you fail.
They seriously need to start paying us to maintain the game for them.
* PvP matches that go by much more quickly than expected now give fewer rewards.
That means if the other team is an AFK Bot team and your team is winning too fast it will severely lower everyone's glory and presumably the botting team will earn close to zero glory (probably earn something like 10 glory) which is better than now in which AFK bot still earns 150 glory per match.
and that fixes what exactly?
- bots will still do suicide runs for participation
- less rewards for bots means they'll bot more matches
- winner team doesn't want reduced rewards so leaves a point to the other team (yay dragging out matches sure sounds like fun)
- they can't be kicked anymore
- less rewards means even less incentive to fight when it's obvious that the team will lose.
wanna know what happens with your "awesome changes" (which aren't exploits btw, but you'll figure that out soon enough)
- people will figure out the threshold for reduced rewards
- people will fight just long enough to go over that threshold, then afk/idle/suicide run
- if the rewards so low that it's faster to just lose on purpose, they'll do that.
- welcome to the same pvp we already have, but now with less kicking
wow, that REALLY sounds awesome....
OR...winning team realizes that other team is AFK bots and only tag ONE node so that the match goes by much more slowly, so THEY can get the INCREASED reward....
Or, if the bots are programmed to run to center, then they will let bots run to center and then cap the 'other' 2 points and let the opposing bots have the center.
Again, THIS FIXES NOTHING.
Well 5 mins in now and playing like normal and whoever was team leader just kicked me for no reason at all..
This game is starting to be more of a pain than a pleasure thats for sure..
Sadly with no kick option we will be stuck keeping bots on our parties, also most bots don't just stand their they participate but are not very effective.
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