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Is knocking monsters off cliffs bannable?
kilios75
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A very common strategy i'm seeing in most T2 dungeons is having a mage or cleric punt monsters off cliffs. Recently a few people have claimed that this is classified as an exploit, and is bannable. Every time its mentioned, it breaks down into a complete argument over whether it is or isnt an exploit and whether its bannable.
I'm seeking clarity on the subject. I really would rather not get banned, nor do i have any intention of exploiting. However, with so many knockback abilities in the game, and tons of dungeons with a ton of cliffs, I can't help but wonder whether using that to your advantage was intended. There are also many many bosses positioned in rooms right at cliffs that can easily be used.
I've also noticed that my only groups that succeed on the harder fights rely on this method. Most of the adds seem to spawn too fast to kill, and the only successful groups i've had have mostly employed this strategy or other things that i consider exploits (terrain where the cleric can't be hit).
Do we have any official responses or information on this? Could we get one? If it's already been answered can someone link me to the reference.
Thanks alot!
I'm seeking clarity on the subject. I really would rather not get banned, nor do i have any intention of exploiting. However, with so many knockback abilities in the game, and tons of dungeons with a ton of cliffs, I can't help but wonder whether using that to your advantage was intended. There are also many many bosses positioned in rooms right at cliffs that can easily be used.
I've also noticed that my only groups that succeed on the harder fights rely on this method. Most of the adds seem to spawn too fast to kill, and the only successful groups i've had have mostly employed this strategy or other things that i consider exploits (terrain where the cleric can't be hit).
Do we have any official responses or information on this? Could we get one? If it's already been answered can someone link me to the reference.
Thanks alot!
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Killing trash in general gets boring very quickly, and you can't do it to bosses so i don't see what the issue is.
"The harder the game, the better."
The issue is that it gets boring continually knocking adds off edges for the benefit of players who have weak builds and can't survive unless this is happening.
Killing trash in general would become more worthwhile if there was a small chance they could drop interesting / useful items.
Are you suggesting that dungeons would be better if they each contained one room with one boss and one chest?
As a CW who loves knocking stuff off i would prefer this.
Obvious answer.
That way the mobs would take some damage but not die.
No a better way is to have the Trash Mob actually drop items that is worthy and more copper. Because right now there is no point of killing them so people tend to skip them. But if it actually drop something useful more often and more copper, people will tend to kill them instead of skipping through them. This is why they call it Trash Mob for a reason because they only drop trash and junks that clutter your bag, and the low amount of copper they drop.
Lol I couldn't have put it better myself. Im glad im not the only one that feels this way....all my skills and the people are pretty much only concerned with two of them.
Ive foiced my thoughts on this mather a number of times a few weeks back, and it all became a reality.
Pretty much stated people wouldent require tanks because of this cheese tactic. I agree something has to be done, the most obviues answer would be to allow trash to drop items of significance (maybe blue/green crafting materials at a very low %?)
Also like mentioned in this thread, a second floor with stairways leading to the top floor, that way it could stil be utilized, but mobs would group up and come back kicking u in the ***.(this would also give tanks a roll in this playstyle, because CW could kick them off, and GF/GWF could wait for them at the stairway? like a chokepoint tank?)
The most disturbing this about this method is exualy what tickledpinks is mentioning, it destroys build diversity and creativity. And if u dont act like a generic mob-pusher, u wil get scolded for trying something new/different wich is very bad for the core game experience of players.
Basicly u get Cheese + Whine , and if u take out the Cheese all ure left with is Whine
SPAWN MORE ADDS!
If they can do it, so can I.
Was watching Ellohime's stream yesterday and a Cryptic employee was in the chat and was asked this question. He said its not an exploit so not bannable but they are looking at ways to keep it to a minimum in the future.
Yes, it is bannable. Only once, completely by accident, I pushed ONE mob from a cliff. I instantly realised what a terrible thing I have done, tried to grab him as he falls, I was screaming I'm sorry, but unfortunately game's mechanic did not allow me to grab his hand/claw
Ok, now seriously. Pardon my irony but it is clear that most dungeons were made this way so players had this possibility to get rid of mobs by pushing them off. Try to defeat last CN boss with no Arcane Singularity, just by dpsing these hordes of mobs, when for each one that died almost instantly comes another. This is clear that some sort of strategy is required and this strategy is pushing mobs off. Yet, even with this its not a walk-in-the-park fight.