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How do you make AD at at 60?

ariusdecimusariusdecimus Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
edited June 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
I'm 60, have been for a while, but have been chilling and making Foundry content. So, what I'm wondering is, how does a GF that is kind of okay (11.1k gear score) make decent AD? Is there something I can run? As it stands, I'm just using leadership/invocation/PvP daily. The foundry one would take forever for a relatively small payoff, so I'm not interested in that for the moment. What can I do?
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  • eros1986eros1986 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    ariusdecimus wrote: »
    I'm 60, have been for a while, but have been chilling and making Foundry content. So, what I'm wondering is, how does a GF that is kind of okay (11.1k gear score) make decent AD? Is there something I can run? As it stands, I'm just using leadership/invocation/PvP daily. The foundry one would take forever for a relatively small payoff, so I'm not interested in that for the moment. What can I do?

    run dungeon, lot of them, sell gear to the AH.
  • ariusdecimusariusdecimus Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    eros1986 wrote: »
    run dungeon, lot of them, sell gear to the AH.

    What are the chances of actually getting gear if you don't need everything? I, strictly, use the need and greed system in the way it was intended to be used. Will that mean that I won't get anything?

    Also, to head people off, I'm already in a guild but we're quite small at the moment. Not enough manpower.
  • jipatsujipatsu Member Posts: 94
    edited June 2013
    Dungeon Delves event is your answer
  • wingedkagoutiwingedkagouti Member Posts: 275 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    ariusdecimus wrote: »
    The foundry one would take forever for a relatively small payoff, so I'm not interested in that for the moment. What can I do?
    It'd take 1-1 1/2 hour to get 4k AD (4x 15-25 min Foundry quest). You can do 2-3 Tier 2 Dungeons in that time, if it isn't during DD you only have a chance at getting something you could possibly sell and if it's a pug you should expect to spend a decent amount of gold on pots on top of that.
  • pinkfontpinkfont Member Posts: 563 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    wingedkagouti wrote: »
    It'd take 1-1 1/2 hour to get 4k AD (4x 15-25 min Foundry quest). You can do 2-3 Tier 2 Dungeons in that time, if it isn't during DD you only have a chance at getting something you could possibly sell and if it's a pug you should expect to spend a decent amount of gold on pots on top of that.

    Boy, sounds fun.
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  • powereddjinnpowereddjinn Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Lose 4 PvP matches quickly, rarely an hour in total, for the same AD as wading through 2hrs of Foundry missions, as the Foundry you'll often have to do 5 or 6 to get 4 completes...

    Or you could farm chests/crafting node and flood the Auction House with crafting materials and enchants...
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  • pinkfontpinkfont Member Posts: 563 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    powereddjinn wrote: »
    Lose 4 PvP matches quickly, rarely an hour in total, for the same AD as wading through 2hrs of Foundry missions, as the Foundry you'll often have to do 5 or 6 to get 4 completes...

    Or you could farm chests/crafting node and flood the Auction House, with crafting materials and enchants...

    He says he does the PvP in his opening post.
    A rich rogue nowadays is fit company for any gentleman; and the world, my dear, hath not such a contempt for roguery as you imagine. - John HAMSTER
  • ariusdecimusariusdecimus Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Yes, thank you everybody. Also, pinkfont is correct, I do PvP legit every day. It's my favorite part of the day. Wish PvP had good rewards for someone beyond the PvP gear :/.
  • mconosrepmconosrep Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    pinkfont wrote: »
    He says he does the PvP in his opening post.

    I think you missed the (ironic) point of powereddjinn's post........
  • okaminosukeokaminosuke Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 155 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    As prices constantly go down on AH, week by week, running dungeons/pvp turns out to be less and less profitable. Also note fact that t2 dungeon chests drop already cheap t1 stuff more often than not...

    The only truly profitable thing to do is running CN for t3 loot. This will also change so basic advice is: run highest possible tier dungeons as much as you can and sell stuff when it is still worth something. If you miss your opportunity you will end up selling things for 3k ad each.
  • kiralynkiralyn Member Posts: 1,440 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Yep. "Sell gear to other people" only works as long as 1. there's people who don't have the gear yet, and 2. they have a large amount of AD to spend (since they're not selling gear to other people, that means that their AD supply is what they can Invoke/Leadership/Daily for. Plus the Founder bonus AD, as long as it exists.)
  • pinkfontpinkfont Member Posts: 563 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    Eh, maybe when Gauntlgrym is released it'll come with better PvP rewards. Though it sounds like it's going to be hell on my computer. :p As an aside, I think people would respond well to a time-consuming, repetitive, repeatable way of farming AD that didn't require specific times to be on or unnecessary "rough" caps. The way I see, the people who are going to buy Zen are paying for the privilege of skipping such content. It makes sense to pay for convenience. What doesn't make sense is not having the grindy, farming method of earning AD in the first place. Without it, what exactly are you paying for the convenience of?
    A rich rogue nowadays is fit company for any gentleman; and the world, my dear, hath not such a contempt for roguery as you imagine. - John HAMSTER
  • noosednoosed Member Posts: 247 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    pinkfont wrote: »
    Eh, maybe when Gauntlgrym is released it'll come with better PvP rewards. Though it sounds like it's going to be hell on my computer. :p As an aside, I think people would respond well to a time-consuming, repetitive, repeatable way of farming AD that didn't require specific times to be on or unnecessary "rough" caps. The way I see, the people who are going to buy Zen are paying for the privilege of skipping such content. It makes sense to pay for convenience. What doesn't make sense is not having the grindy, farming method of earning AD in the first place. Without it, what exactly are you paying for the convenience of?

    Not having to do dailys for 8 weeks to purchase an item
  • pinkfontpinkfont Member Posts: 563 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    noosed wrote: »
    Not having to do dailys for 8 weeks to purchase an item

    That's a bit disingenuous though isn't it? At that point, you're not really paying for convenience's sake, you're just paying for the ability to buy things at all. See my point?
    A rich rogue nowadays is fit company for any gentleman; and the world, my dear, hath not such a contempt for roguery as you imagine. - John HAMSTER
  • noosednoosed Member Posts: 247 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    pinkfont wrote: »
    That's a bit disingenuous though isn't it? At that point, you're not really paying for convenience's sake, you're just paying for the ability to buy things at all. See my point?

    Yah i see your point. I am hopeful of gauntylgrym (sp) though. Even if people want to say this is the official release of the game, the truth is it's still beta, the devs have a lot more content in mind to release that I think will make the AD grind feel a bit less arduous.
  • norobladnoroblad Member Posts: 556 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    wingedkagouti wrote: »
    It'd take 1-1 1/2 hour to get 4k AD (4x 15-25 min Foundry quest). You can do 2-3 Tier 2 Dungeons in that time, if it isn't during DD you only have a chance at getting something you could possibly sell and if it's a pug you should expect to spend a decent amount of gold on pots on top of that.

    You can get 10k in 1 hour by making a new toon, rocking to level 10, and selling each crafting buddy (5 seconds to get the first one in each craft, current value: not quite 2k each). A founder's weapon makes this very quick, you can roll a GF and aoe at-will down everything for 10 very fast levels. Still pathetic rewards (10k is pretty weak in a world where anything decent is 1/2 a mil) but it beats 4k an hour...

    Crafting is good money if you work at it, easily tens of thousands per day.
  • chronomancerchronomancer Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 1,223
    edited June 2013
    Well in the last few days I've seen T2 gear get cheaper and cheaper as more and more people obtain them at a very fast rate. It's gonna reach a point where it's not even worth much anymore. One way Blizzard deal with epic gear trivializing issues is to have dungeon cooldowns (maybe limit epic dungeon run to once per day per dungeon). And instead of having your gear obtained thru random drops have it obtained with tokens instead. You get 1.) happier players (no more ninja looting) with reward equalization 2.) players have a choice to purchase what they want and not to rely on luck 3.) slows down gear trivialization. 4.) more time for devs to create content (it takes many months for WoW dungeon to become obsolete not mere weeks) 5.) slow down RMT farmers.
  • syberghostsyberghost Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 2,474
    edited June 2013
    ariusdecimus wrote: »
    What are the chances of actually getting gear if you don't need everything? I, strictly, use the need and greed system in the way it was intended to be used. Will that mean that I won't get anything?

    Yes. If one person in the group isn't using it the way you think he should, then he will get everything.

    If you're not Need-ing everything in pugs, you might as well be Pass-ing everything. Greed is for guild groups.

    If you're really stumped for how to get AD, you can always buy it. Or buy things for Zen that sell for a ton of AD to people who think their time isn't worth anything. Dye packs sell for excellent prices. Mounts sell for astronomical prices. Anything that can't be scammed through some method of automated play is going to go for premium AD.
  • baohsubaohsu Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 74
    edited June 2013
    Consumables. Sell Consumables. Enchants, Wards, Scrolls of ID, Dyes,

    Anything that doesn't have permanence will be needed.
    Foundry author of the "Red Rum Runners" Campaign. Part 1: "WANTED: Physical Labor Needed" and Part 2: "Worst Employer Ever!"
  • enderlin50enderlin50 Member Posts: 993 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    My GWF while waiting for a party does things in the Moonstone Mask he isn't proud of.
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  • tinypyrotinypyro Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 371 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    There are lots of legit ways to make AD. I can make 500k per day w/o spending a dime. I won't give away my secrets, but its all about supply and demand. Look at things that sell well on the auction house, figure out the different ways to attain such items, then figure out if it would be profitable to go through the effort to attain them. Good luck :)

    Edit: I should point out that 500k is a VERY good day. I seldom make that much in a day. But it's very possible :)
  • erethizon1erethizon1 Member Posts: 185 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    pinkfont wrote: »
    That's a bit disingenuous though isn't it? At that point, you're not really paying for convenience's sake, you're just paying for the ability to buy things at all. See my point?

    I would argue you are paying for an even greater amount of convenience. Instead of paying to skip X hours of grinding, you are paying to skip X hours of grinding that has to take no less than Y months to accomplish. It makes the value of spending real money even greater (and makes the value of AD greater which is nice for the people that are doing the grinding). The rough AD limit is an extremely nice way of curbing inflation, while at the same time ensuring that people do not get burned out grinding AD too quickly (because you can only spend a limited amount of time each day grinding AD whether you like it or not since there is no point in averaging more than 24k AD per day).
  • ramzay81ramzay81 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    This may sound snide, but here goes...

    I'm pretty sure most people could get a real life job paying at least $15/hour (so let's say $10 after taxes and deductions). $10 will buy you 1,000 Zen. During the week, the AD/Zen exchange has a rate of around 350AD per Zen last I checked. So one hour of real life work gets you 350k AD.

    Best return ever. You can spend one hour doing some boring <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> in game to get maybe 10k AD, or perform one hour of real life work for 350k AD.

    Just saying.
  • kiralynkiralyn Member Posts: 1,440 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    ramzay81 wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure most people could get a real life job paying at least $15/hour

    You think so? Really?
  • pednickpednick Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    The foundry dailys suck at 60, 4 times and they're on the hard side too, it's tiring at the end of them, that's not fun just annoying.
    ariusdecimus wrote: »
    I'm 60, have been for a while, but have been chilling and making Foundry content. So, what I'm wondering is, how does a GF that is kind of okay (11.1k gear score) make decent AD? Is there something I can run? As it stands, I'm just using leadership/invocation/PvP daily. The foundry one would take forever for a relatively small payoff, so I'm not interested in that for the moment. What can I do?
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  • llewelyn89llewelyn89 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 129 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I've been enjoying the foundries at 60 - since they changed/adjusted/broke (depending on your point of view) my shield, I've been using it for test runs on new methods. There's a great variety of mob compositions in there, running Hotenow or the Caverns isn't as varied for working on your technique.
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