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Benefit of Foresight Cleric Feat
agrias34
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Does anyone have any extra information regarding this feat for clerics?
It's in the Faithful (middle) paragon tree, and it says, Defense Bonus From Foresight is increased by 1/2/3/4/5%.
Foresight is a passive that says "You receive 2% less incoming damage, and when healing others, this buff is shared to them as well."
After 3 points into the passive, it goes up to 6%.
Now my question is, does the 5 point feat increase the passive additively up to 11%? Or does it increase the 6% by 5% which would be .3%, making it 6.3%, basically nothing?
Now I tried equipping the passive, and it doesn't reflect or change any values in your character sheet, meaning the defense nor the damage resistance % go up or down in any way. So it could only mean that it is a totally separate value that just reduces incoming damage by that flat percentage.
So does anyone have any insight or knowledge on how this feat works in regards to the 6%? It is definitely worthwhile if it adds the 5% making it 11%, but if it doesn't, then it's <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>.
It's in the Faithful (middle) paragon tree, and it says, Defense Bonus From Foresight is increased by 1/2/3/4/5%.
Foresight is a passive that says "You receive 2% less incoming damage, and when healing others, this buff is shared to them as well."
After 3 points into the passive, it goes up to 6%.
Now my question is, does the 5 point feat increase the passive additively up to 11%? Or does it increase the 6% by 5% which would be .3%, making it 6.3%, basically nothing?
Now I tried equipping the passive, and it doesn't reflect or change any values in your character sheet, meaning the defense nor the damage resistance % go up or down in any way. So it could only mean that it is a totally separate value that just reduces incoming damage by that flat percentage.
So does anyone have any insight or knowledge on how this feat works in regards to the 6%? It is definitely worthwhile if it adds the 5% making it 11%, but if it doesn't, then it's <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>.
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Just to clarify the vast majority of the time on independent numbers it returned 11% but now and again it would return lower % than expected resulting in the pool of numbers used having some... hick-ups.
So yes its 11%.
Interesting. I did wonder if it was two separate checks (so a 5% reduction followed by a 6% reduction, or vice versa), because that works out to a 10.7% reduction overall (0.95*0.94 =0.893).
And OP: doesn't affect healing directly, but damage reduction is arguably better than healing anyway (better to prevent damage in the first place than to heal it).
I'll point out how i read the abilities & feats as thats how they are DESCRIBED but thats not how people on the forums EXPLAIN how they work... somewhere something is off.
Skill:
Foresight: "Anticipating what is to come, you receive 2% less incoming damage. When healing others you share these visions and temporarily increase their defenses as well" (1 point)
4% less incoming damage (2 points)
6% less incoming damage (3 points)
No where does it say you share the 2/4/6% less damage with whoever you heal. It says you increase their defenses (the stat defense ?)
Question: does it only boost the defense stat? if so then by howmuch???
Feat:
Benefit of Foresight: Defense bonus from Foresight is increased by 1/2/3/4/5%
Once again it doesnt say anywhere that it increases the % less damage but instead talks about the Defense bonus part that foresight increases and as i mentioned above the defense boost is only for OTHERS you heal as you get a flat % less damage reduction (?).
Question: Does this boost the one you heal their defense stat by 1/2/3/4/5% or does it boost the bonus you give with foresight by 1/2/3/4/5%? (I'm leaning on the latter one)
Option 1: If it boosts the defense stat of the class you heal then linked spirit(keep in mind you boost more then just defense with this) would be better for TR & CW as they get 5% of the clerics defense (which should be more) as opposed to the +5% from Benefit of foresight.
Option 2: Unable to theorize as the defense value boosted by foresight is not mentioned anywhere. No concrete info as to howmuch it boosts. If it boosts (exaggeration) + 2000 defense then Benefit of foresight would be better as opposed to 5% from linked spirit (+5% cleric def stat)
Some clarification on this would be really appreciated. Preferably backed up by hard evidence.
People say one thing, descriptions say another thing.
Sigh, but I'll go test for you to prove it lol brb.
30.3% damage reduction from defense + AC
707/1011 dmg taken (30.36% reduction)
655/955 dmg taken (30.36% reduction)
699/1003 dmg taken (30.30% reduction)
Average DR : 30.34%
w/Foresight :
575/981 dmg taken (41.38% reduction)
580/981 dmg taken (40.87% reduction)
571/983 dmg taken (41.91% reduction)
Average DR : 40.72%
Difference : 10.38%
Erm, I didn't except those numbers TBH. I think the 5% and 6% ARE multiplicative, but the whole thing is additive.
That makes it absolutely insanely strong if that's the case.
It gives them the exact same buff.
Hi knoteskad,
I'm wondering how you did your testing. How did you make it so you can see two damage number (the one with reduction and the one without)?
Before someone ask.. yes two clerics makes the bonus stacks
Lol, I took some dmg from a mob.
Then took off foresight and took more dmg from said mob.