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flatgonzo
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
Hi. My GWF recently hit 50 and have two chances left to affect my stats. That is 4 points if lvl60 gives another 2, or only 2 left if lvl60 gives +1 all stats like it would appear.
I have so far
24str
16con
17dex
Is Strength worth going all out for, or should I work on the other stats while I still can? I looked at what the stats do, but since there is still so much about this game I don't understand I thought: why not ask people who know.
Any information would be appreciated.
I have so far
24str
16con
17dex
Is Strength worth going all out for, or should I work on the other stats while I still can? I looked at what the stats do, but since there is still so much about this game I don't understand I thought: why not ask people who know.
Any information would be appreciated.
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Yes point for point, STR will give you the most damage. (As one would expect)
DEX is second in terms of damage, if you want to crit, put points in it.
CON while some people will try to tell you its useless for damage actually contributes to a small degree to dps as a GWF, but mostly of course its for the hp.
(Some claim that the CON "armor penetration" bonus is broke at the moment, not actually giving the proper amount, which would reduce its value).
Though personally I ended up raising CON to 19 with campfire (as a human with no point bonus) because I consider the bonus hp to be good for pvp, also since GWF are melee and will normally be in the middle of things....you WILL get hit with AOEs occasionally, and not having squishy mage level hp will actually be quite useful at least in my opinion. Which, yes I took a hit in crit % for doing so, but this can be changed with gear/enchants, though of course lacking hp can be fixed this way as well.
So yea, my suggestion is STR is paramount to everything, and should get a point EVERY level, but CON/DEX? Do what you want, its not that big a deal.
Plus even if the issue with armor penetration not working is true, which is the only viable argument as to why CON is inferior to DEX, it will be fixed eventually.
Oh and yes, level 60 is plus 1 to all stats.
First....I would like to state that IF (which I absolutely believe is not the case) CON reduces armor pen effects being used on you....then Cryptic must clearly be the worst company at using the English language in history. As there is absolutely no way, at all, that one should understand the phrase "Resistance Ignored", yes that is what is says, RESISTANCE ignored, no person with any understanding of the English language should take that to mean it ignores Armor Penetration effects against you.
That....logically would be called "Penetration Ignored".
So, while I won't claim that Cryptic are genius level developers/English Professors, I refuse to believe that they fail to understand how to use words to that level.
Also it actually makes a ton more sense from a logical standpoint for CON to give you a Damage boost as GWF are a hybrid class that is by design going to be hit often (so even in pve its good to have at least "some" health), so gaining dual effects from a stat that otherwise the damage-*****s would wholly ignore just because it does not increase their damage meter numbers....well, makes sense.
Oh and please don't say that CON being a defensive stat makes more sense because its CON and that means its logically a defensive stat, as I will say.....CHA.....raises your chance to deflect attacks as a rogue.....so game logic does not have to follow real life logic.
Also if one were to look at a GF they on the same hand have DEX giving "Resistance Ignored" by the way, which clearly is a DPS ability score on classes. Just a side note there, as it proves the "CON = Defensive ability score so obviously it can only have Defensive bonuses" logic fails.
So, in the end, I still hold the complete and utter belief that CON is basically a flat armor penetration-like (emphasis on the "like" part) buff. Whether it is bugged and not working...is a different story, and I am too lazy/cheap to test that.
Well... it is true that it does say resistance ignored and thats a poor choice of words but... it also says resistance ignored - blank %... notice the minus... so double negative...
Hmm, I will admit that - is sort of "vague" and annoying. Though it could be taken as in "You apply -9% resistance when you attack".
I frankly wish some developer could just confirm what its supposed to do.
And I would be kind of angry if it does work as Armor Penetration Defense because to me there is absolutely zero reason to word the stat info that way and have it be that effect.....also I probably would not have put as many points into CON if it were less vague. (I could not care less about pvp, so if it does in fact work that way, it is at least a ton less useful, also it still does not explain how DEX=Armor Pen Resistance on a GF either really...)
In the end though, I actually just sort of slightly shifted towards believing maybe they really are that crappy at writing tooltips, I guess I should have thought a little more about how crappy they can be at it considering some of the other skills/feats that have completely trash/ambiguous descriptions.
Also I am FAR from the only person that thinks this is how CON is "supposed" to work.....so if its the other way someone needs to do some explaining already.
.....If only there was actually a viable way to test this, like I don't know a Duel system instead of what, just trying to convince random people in a pvp arena to remove their gear until they have like only 9% armor pen to see if 19 CON counteracts their armor pen fully.....yea, that sounds fun.
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