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Seriously? Can't even stop gold spammers openly announceing in zone?

kabothoriginalkabothoriginal Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 465 Bounty Hunter
edited June 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
The you got people that name www.p0rnhub dot com or their pets stuff like that, but I cant name a pet Mongo.

After the exploit catch and bans I got my hopes up, but starting to lose faith. Here the game is in "open beta" and already not only am I getting offers in email from gold spammers, but they are openly announcing in zone in the protectors enclave now? You cant even stop that? What's the point of banning people over exploits if you have gold sellers doing this?
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  • mithrosnomoremithrosnomore Member Posts: 693 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    You can do your part to help stop the spam.

    That is what the community silencing policy is supposed to do.

    Gold spammer posts (and posts, and posts), people report them as spammers, they get points, and then they are silenced for 24 hours.
    It just requires that enough people do it. If everyone sits around and thinks "what's the use?" then the spammers will be able to continue on and on.

    They can not possibly stop a spammer before they become a spammer. That those things happen is just a part of life in an MMO.

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    As far as companion names, I agree. There is no way that I know of to connect a companion to a character, so reporting is much less efficient.
    They should make it where you can use "F" to interact with a character through their companion. You see a companion that is a problem you can click "f", get the character name and global handle, and then make a report.

    Better still to let you access a report behavior function directly from that list so you can save yourself from having to type the @handle yourself.


    But right now all you can do is open a ticket and give the details that you have (what companion type and what name). At least you can when the ticket system is working (have they fixed that yet?).
    They should be able to track the companion down and take appropriate action against the offending player.
  • salnasalna Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Or make main city zone more restricted chat limits.
    If player char is below 20 lvl you can write 1 message in 1-5 minutes in main chat.
    if got cought gold spamming and on that account is not high level chars just delete account.
    Or disable city chat below 10-20 lvl at all at least then it will take them time to level up spam char.
    Hear silence.
  • nornsavantnornsavant Member Posts: 311 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    They can not possibly stop a spammer before they become a spammer.

    Ah, my dear colleague and forum compatriot I beg to differ on this point. Just because there has been an appalling lack of foresight and planning in the impending launch of this game doesn’t mean other games have not faced this exact conundrum and come up with innovative and interesting solutions.

    One of the joys of living in a big world is the ability to look around and get inspiration from other people who have done what you are trying to do but better.

    There is a game that, if you put .com in the text, will replace the whole text with hash marks, so “blah blahh blah buy blah gold at blahblah.com” turns into “### ### ###### ############”. And the chat community responds with “Fail!”

    That acts as their profanity filter as well and you can’t turn it off. Sounds annoying? Is it as annoying as ChEAPgOld-GoldHause.Net the Cleric?

    It’s is a poverty of solutions in a wealth of ideas. Just look around Devs.
  • syberghostsyberghost Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 2,474
    edited May 2013
    nornsavant wrote: »
    There is a game that, if you put .com in the text, will replace the whole text with hash marks, so “blah blahh blah buy blah gold at blahblah.com” turns into “### ### ###### ############”. And the chat community responds with “Fail!”

    And as a result, people can't share legitimate urls, and the spammers all put www,blahgold,com. Because bypassing such filters is trivial.

    Bypassing a community that actively reacts to the spam, however, is not.
  • kindyrekindyre Member Posts: 101
    edited May 2013
    syberghost wrote: »
    And as a result, people can't share legitimate urls, and the spammers all put www,blahgold,com. Because bypassing such filters is trivial.

    Bypassing a community that actively reacts to the spam, however, is not.

    I agree.

    Those kinds of preemptive "solutions" tend to only inhibit legitimate users. The devious always find a way around filters.
  • bioshrikebioshrike Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,729 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    For starters, only allow letters or spaces in character/companion names. Next, implement a limiter of 1 zone message per 5 seconds. Lastly, raise the minimum level to post in zone chat a little - like to level 15 or 20 instead of 10. The extra time required to get there wouldn't really impact legitimate players, but might just impact spammers enough to cut into their profit for time invested. And finally, of course, confiscate spammers' gold/ADs/Zen/items - you must of course hold them temporarily just in case they aren't actually spammers, (this last process would only be after a thorough investigation was conducted by live GMs).
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  • aporiascaporiasc Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    bioshrike wrote: »
    For starters, only allow letters or spaces in character/companion names. Next, implement a limiter of 1 zone message per 5 seconds. Lastly, raise the minimum level to post in zone chat a little - like to level 15 or 20 instead of 10. The extra time required to get there wouldn't really impact legitimate players, but might just impact spammers enough to cut into their profit for time invested. And finally, of course, confiscate spammers' gold/ADs/Zen/items - you must of course hold them temporarily just in case they aren't actually spammers, (this last process would only be after a thorough investigation was conducted by live GMs).

    ^^ This all day
  • not1nameleftnot1nameleft Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I enjoy having the option to report for spam from the chat box and the mail, you at least feel like you can contribute to dealing with the issue
  • fauust01fauust01 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    tbh i clicked "ignore" on most of them and now i am now getting any spams more or less
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  • clortbagsclortbags Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    These gold sellers have many accounts with multiple characters on each account, they probably pay someone to create new accounts and level characters upto 15 for them to spam with, they'll never stop them with this system no matter how many people hit right-click report spam.

    The community silencing system is a complete and utter joke and does NOTHING to combat the real spammers.
  • travail01travail01 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 151 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    You can't eliminate gold seller spam. They will always find ways to say, "goldsellingsite.com" in chat, even if they have to change it to "g0ld se11ing s1te d0t c0m," or something of that nature. However, you can make it impossible to spam chat, period.

    A limit of 1 zone chat message every 5-10 seconds would at least allow players to report the gold seller before their messages become true "spam"; before it fills the entire window.

    Alternately, have it so that posting more than a couple of messages in a 5 second window would automatically silence you for a couple of minutes. Again, that prevents the entire chat window from filling with a single gold seller's spam.

    You can also allow players to check a box which stops all incoming mail from other players who are not on their friends list, preventing gold sellers from spamming mail boxes.

    None of these things will completely prevent gold sellers from spamming other players, but they are all quality of life improvements over the current system.

    -Travail.
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