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cichard
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Let me start out by saying this is for PVE only and testing on the training dummy...
Stats:
4225 power
3575 Crit
1330 Armor pen
1265 recovery
That relates to 8193 attack and 49.5% crit chance i also have 25% Vorpal.
So using lashing blade from stealth with 5 stacks of wicked reminder up on the training dummy i get 18k crits..... That doesnt seem right. I would surly see much higher numbers. also even with lurkers up i am only getting 10k crit bleed ticks from DF bleed. Something doesnt seem right. I wanted to get some numbers from other TRs to see if its just me or if its inline. So please post your stats and then what numbers you get.
Stats:
4225 power
3575 Crit
1330 Armor pen
1265 recovery
That relates to 8193 attack and 49.5% crit chance i also have 25% Vorpal.
So using lashing blade from stealth with 5 stacks of wicked reminder up on the training dummy i get 18k crits..... That doesnt seem right. I would surly see much higher numbers. also even with lurkers up i am only getting 10k crit bleed ticks from DF bleed. Something doesnt seem right. I wanted to get some numbers from other TRs to see if its just me or if its inline. So please post your stats and then what numbers you get.
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my point exactly if they have no mitigation then i should be hitting more hten 18k crits on the dummies.... over 5000 power with my swash 4 piece set bonus stacked up... and still only 18k crits on lashing.... how are these guys getting 30k crit bleed ticks and 60 70k crit lashings
Debuffs and buffs from your party.
Point was, it increases in dmg in party with buffs and debuffs.
Armor Pen does nothing to dummies (can't got with it below 0%) but debuffs can decrease it even to -200% if you want to..
OT:
Highly depends on your DM stacks mostly, Inv. Infiltrator buff influences it as well tho (I personally do 1 flurry then lurker for the last few stacks - there's still noone that can say for sure if the first bleed stacks influence the final dmg of the 10th stack or not, at least i didn't saw something).
Bleed and Lashing crits can be boosted by A LOT.
Without any stuff on a mob, its critting for sth like 20k for me though, while lurker it varies from 40-60k. But if at that moment. e.g. our warrior attacks/debuff and CW, it will be a lot higher. Highest I've got so far was a 97k lashing crit @last boss of Temple of the Spider.
Theres just to many debuffs out there so that you can't realy compare crits that good.
GWF can debuff 15%, CW 65%, cleric with set 40% (not sure if they got any skills), TR 20%, plague fire (e.g. 3x 10%) - results in -212% mitigation = little bit more than tripple dmg for some seconds at least.
@dummies
they actually suck for testing. If you WOULD get some high bleed, the dummy is dead in most cases already at 10th stack or before, stupid low HP.
You can also see a better formatted version of the guide here.
right i want to know what people are getting on the dummy not in fights and party. Are my numbers on the dummy comparable.
Its VERY RNG.
On a dummy my Bleeds go from ~6K (Yellow non-crit ticks) to ~21K (Crit ticks). My gear aint great, just leveld the rogue this week to fill in for our rogue who's awol. I have 10K GS (Not that it means HAMSTER) and run ArP build (20% ArP) which helps not at all on dummys.
Basically my bleed crits tend to be around the 10K range unless the stars align and then they can get silly. Like I say best i've seen on a dummy was 21K (A single tick b/c the dummy died
Rotation was
Stealth > Flurry > Wicked Reminder > Lurkers > Stealth > Flurry.
Hope that info is what your looking for.