Traps seem to be totally irrelevant. They're usually easy to spot and avoid, and if you do happen to get hit by one, the damage is so low that it's completely irrelevant. As a Rogue, I naturally disarm every one I come across, thinking that there is some purpose to this. But there is no experience gain for disarming, no increased treasure for removing all the traps, and all you're really doing is wasting a little time to save yourself a miniscule amount of damage, at best.
So I see three possible solutions to give trap disarming some actual meaning:
1. Drastically increase trap damage and make them harder to see/avoid (I'm sure nobody will like this solution)
2. If they're not going to serve any real purpose, remove them from the game. (not a fan of this either)
3. Give Rogues some experience for disarming traps. (I like this solution, and it's pretty standard MMORPG stuff)
4. The other D&D game, Dungeons and Dragons Online, had a system where you gained bonuses at the end of the dungeon based on certain tasks - how much you killed, secret doors discovered, traps disarmed, etc. (this is my favorite solution)
It'd be fun if in the future disarming traps gave parts/components, such as for making your own traps or other mechanical goodies. Surely there will be engineering eventually?
In some of the single player dungeon quests the traps can be quite useful for killing the mobs. As a rogue I stand behind one and throw a dagger and they run at me hitting the trap along the way.
It'd be fun if in the future disarming traps gave parts/components, such as for making your own traps or other mechanical goodies. Surely there will be engineering eventually?
I got used to this from DDO, and was sad i didn't get anything from doing it here.
1. Drastically increase trap damage and make them harder to see/avoid (I'm sure nobody will like this solution)
There were some traps in DDO that absolutely DESTROYED me (when i played classes that had trouble with them. It sucked if you couldn't get a good rogue, or any one, but it did make you respect them, especially on hard or elite. Here? Pretty much will avoid them if i see them, but don't worry about them at all. It's more annoying that they make you stop, more than any damage they do. With how groups zerg through dungeons, it doesn't help trying to avoid them or draw monsters into them.
I love the idea of traps, but they seem to need to do something "more" with them here. I'd frankly love if they had random ones, or even more types like that were in Tomb of Horrors.
This is one of my huge issues with the game tarps mean zero in Dungeon Delves peopel rush through them take the damage and then Rage at the DC, because they were too stupid to A: bring healing pots, B: let the TR or the guy with the thieves kit do his job and C; Not understand what a DC's job is (hint it isn't to give you "epik Healz") in the first place..
Traps should be random (as in never in the same place twice) and deadly with a greatly reduced chance of a NON-TR with a thieves kit seeing/disarming the traps.
It would give delves a whole new dynamic and make it feel much more like D&D.
This is one of my huge issues with the game tarps mean zero in Dungeon Delves peopel rush through them take the damage and then Rage at the DC, because they were too stupid to A: bring healing pots, B: let the TR or the guy with the thieves kit do his job and C; Not understand what a DC's job is (hint it isn't to give you "epik Healz") in the first place..
Traps should be random (as in never in the same place twice) and deadly with a greatly reduced chance of a NON-TR with a thieves kit seeing/disarming the traps.
It would give delves a whole new dynamic and make it feel much more like D&D.
I think traps in random spots would be cool, but it would be so difficult to implement. Traps were built into the dungeons, so they can't just be randomly placed. Plus random traps would end up with traps in some very strange places.
Traps seem to be totally irrelevant. They're usually easy to spot and avoid, and if you do happen to get hit by one, the damage is so low that it's completely irrelevant. As a Rogue, I naturally disarm every one I come across, thinking that there is some purpose to this. But there is no experience gain for disarming, no increased treasure for removing all the traps, and all you're really doing is wasting a little time to save yourself a miniscule amount of damage, at best.
So I see three possible solutions to give trap disarming some actual meaning:
1. Drastically increase trap damage and make them harder to see/avoid (I'm sure nobody will like this solution)
2. If they're not going to serve any real purpose, remove them from the game. (not a fan of this either)
3. Give Rogues some experience for disarming traps. (I like this solution, and it's pretty standard MMORPG stuff)
4. The other D&D game, Dungeons and Dragons Online, had a system where you gained bonuses at the end of the dungeon based on certain tasks - how much you killed, secret doors discovered, traps disarmed, etc. (this is my favorite solution)
This is one of my huge issues with the game tarps mean zero in Dungeon Delves peopel rush through them take the damage and then Rage at the DC, because they were too stupid to A: bring healing pots, B: let the TR or the guy with the thieves kit do his job and C; Not understand what a DC's job is (hint it isn't to give you "epik Healz") in the first place..
Traps should be random (as in never in the same place twice) and deadly with a greatly reduced chance of a NON-TR with a thieves kit seeing/disarming the traps.
It would give delves a whole new dynamic and make it feel much more like D&D.
Completely agree with both of these posts, and vote for Solution #4 from the OP.
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I got used to this from DDO, and was sad i didn't get anything from doing it here.
There were some traps in DDO that absolutely DESTROYED me (when i played classes that had trouble with them. It sucked if you couldn't get a good rogue, or any one, but it did make you respect them, especially on hard or elite. Here? Pretty much will avoid them if i see them, but don't worry about them at all. It's more annoying that they make you stop, more than any damage they do. With how groups zerg through dungeons, it doesn't help trying to avoid them or draw monsters into them.
I love the idea of traps, but they seem to need to do something "more" with them here. I'd frankly love if they had random ones, or even more types like that were in Tomb of Horrors.
Traps should be random (as in never in the same place twice) and deadly with a greatly reduced chance of a NON-TR with a thieves kit seeing/disarming the traps.
It would give delves a whole new dynamic and make it feel much more like D&D.
I think traps in random spots would be cool, but it would be so difficult to implement. Traps were built into the dungeons, so they can't just be randomly placed. Plus random traps would end up with traps in some very strange places.
Completely agree with both of these posts, and vote for Solution #4 from the OP.