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Power vs Critical Strike vs Armor Penetracion

dwayn3dwayn3 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited May 2013 in The Thieves' Den
I used to stack as many Power as posible, but now i think about changing it:

stats with stone pet:

Power - 6700 = +268dmg
Critical Strike - 2750 = +16,4% crit chance
Armor Penetracion - 1060 = +10,2% res ignored

what if take most bonus power from jewelry/enchants/pet (about 3k?) and put that into armor penetracion or crit strike or recovery ?? wouldn't that go better for dps ?
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  • warpetwarpet Member Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    recovery think since armor penetration dose not work in pve,and recovery work very good like 1% cd reduction from it turn in 3% so whit 2k recovery u can have 40% or close to it cd reduction
  • solsol1337solsol1337 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 241 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    If you check out this post I already did the math for Power Vs Crit. Anyone who is still saying ARP is useless in PVE should probably stop trying to give advice to people. You can skip to the end of the post if you just want to see the stat weights / caps and avoid the math.
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  • warpetwarpet Member Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    armor penetration dose not work in pve...my friend stack it over 22% and he dose not have bigger damage in pve,and i have it close to 10% and dont work in pve to
  • solsol1337solsol1337 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 241 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    After 22% it stops doing anything because PVE dungeon monsters only have 22% damage reduction. If you are trying to use dummies to test it then that's why you don't see a change. Dummies have no damage resistance. If you are trying to use much of anything else to test it then I doubt you are actually testing it in any way that is useful.
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  • leomutretaleomutreta Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    solsol1337 wrote: »
    After 22% it stops doing anything because PVE dungeon monsters only have 22% damage reduction. If you are trying to use dummies to test it then that's why you don't see a change. Dummies have no damage resistance. If you are trying to use much of anything else to test it then I doubt you are actually testing it in any way that is useful.
    That made me wonder... If you have other classes that apply resistence debuffs on the target playing with you constantly (GF and GWF are 2 I know that have abilities that do that), we will not need that much armor pen (22%)... this is more the case when playing besides a GWF, cause they can AoE debuff mobs resistence.

    Edit: well, for bosses where the rogue will be all alone doing the damage, we still need it.
  • apacdub4apacdub4 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    @% Defense bonus above their base def allowing you to get you full dmg from encounters and at wills after that debuffs from GF/gwf and other classes cause the targets defense to drop below their base amount or INTO THE NEGATIVE giving you a direct dmg increase aross the board
  • apacdub4apacdub4 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    B A S E defense this forum bleeped it out for some reas
  • apacdub4apacdub4 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    dwayn3 wrote: »
    I used to stack as many Power as posible, but now i think about changing it:

    stats with stone pet:

    Power - 6700 = +268dmg
    Critical Strike - 2750 = +16,4% crit chance
    Armor Penetracion - 1060 = +10,2% res ignored

    what if take most bonus power from jewelry/enchants/pet (about 3k?) and put that into armor penetracion or crit strike or recovery ?? wouldn't that go better for dps ?

    for the record like its been stated above power outweighs crit by alot after you have 2200-2400 crit rating arp out weighs your crit till you have 22% recovery i personaly ****ing hate i thinks its a terribe stat and it made the itemization for rogue tier gear **** ill stick to my non tier epics and rock my 2 set shadewalkers till i can get 4 piece swash since thats the only set owrht **** but i stack power at all times then arp to 22% then crit to 2200-2400 then rest into power as much as you can
  • matrias88matrias88 Member Posts: 36
    edited May 2013
    warpet wrote: »
    armor penetration dose not work in pve...my friend stack it over 22% and he dose not have bigger damage in pve,and i have it close to 10% and dont work in pve to
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7jhb8_UPfw ^
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