There are many reasons why GF isn't a good class and not needed in high level dungeons. Main reason is AC doesn't work as it should in this game. The GF should be getting hit by every attack with their high AC, only way to not get hit is block and that drops your DPS and can't be used when you taunt. I don't know if the Devs never play PnP but with 30+ AC you are a tanking god. In this game you die as fast as a mage or rogue because your AC doesn't matter.
There are few GFs who know how to dps as one and consequently, it leaves the impression that gfs are just bad.
That is soo **** TRUE.... Short of their taunt's don't pull agro off anyone. I really don't see why them and GWFS are all up in arms. I've run w/ lots of GF/GWFS that know how to play their class and can do DPS. Than on the flip-side I've run w/ some that couldn't dps their way out of a wet paper bag and stand in red all the time. So it really depends who's taken the time to research their class, and learn to play it.
There are many reasons why GF isn't a good class and not needed in high level dungeons. Main reason is AC doesn't work as it should in this game. The GF should be getting hit by every attack with their high AC, only way to not get hit is block and that drops your DPS and can't be used when you taunt. I don't know if the Devs never play PnP but with 30+ AC you are a tanking god. In this game you die as fast as a mage or rogue because your AC doesn't matter.
Stack Defense/Deflect if thats your issue. I made the change about a week or so back and it was night and day as far as the damage I can take.
Yes AC and a few other stats don't seem to be working as intended but others are so you just need to play and use them.
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lorentzo02Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero UsersPosts: 20Arc User
edited May 2013
yes gf need upgrads on taunts i think play warrior in wow easy keep aggro here in game no taunts all
I have run some T2's now when I got my stalwark set completed.
Boy I feel so useless at the moment in T2's that I feel almost carried over on those dungeons.
Guess I need to find a upgrade for my main hand so I can dps better as the tanking tactic is not viable option.
When tanking you either:
A. Lose aggro to DC
B. Take massive amounts of damage eventhough you are wearing plate
C. Block 1 attack of the elite mob / boss and you brake your guard and revert back to B.
And on top of the guard issue, now blocking lags, which makes guarding even more harder.
There are many reasons why GF isn't a good class and not needed in high level dungeons. Main reason is AC doesn't work as it should in this game. The GF should be getting hit by every attack with their high AC, only way to not get hit is block and that drops your DPS and can't be used when you taunt. I don't know if the Devs never play PnP but with 30+ AC you are a tanking god. In this game you die as fast as a mage or rogue because your AC doesn't matter.
The feat giving GF +5AC not working doesnt help. The block not working 40% of the time doesnt help either. GF are broken atm.
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lorentzo02Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero UsersPosts: 20Arc User
edited May 2013
yes bad neverwinter make gurdian fighter useless they need fix very badly
i always love play tank now feel dispoints and no honor play tank in here game
Sure, so DPS build should be the only viable one, right? No CC build and no Tank build right?
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Its like any other game you have ever played...If you wanted to spec DPS and your class was a healer, that might you might have to sit on the side lines for a bit, But you knew that going into it. You can play a CC tank but that doesn't mean your wanted in a group right now. Just like I could play PURE DPS on my healer, but I would have a lot of upset and angry people w/ me.
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lorentzo02Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero UsersPosts: 20Arc User
edited May 2013
i have play wow age of conan warhammer anarchy online there always tank feel right and honor play class
here in neverwinter feel like gimp and useless class
The GF isn't ment to be that bad. There is two bugs dealing with the GF right now. The first one is the GFs shields are not working right. The second is agro is bugged. Clerics get auto-agro when they have things that are supposed to be less agro thus so all the Clerics are becoming tanks but without the build. They are all supposed to go to the tank but it isn't happening due to that bug. Tank can only hold it for a few seconds then it switches straight to Clerics.
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There are few GFs who know how to dps as one and consequently, it leaves the impression that gfs are just bad.
Dragon Guild
That is soo **** TRUE.... Short of their taunt's don't pull agro off anyone. I really don't see why them and GWFS are all up in arms. I've run w/ lots of GF/GWFS that know how to play their class and can do DPS. Than on the flip-side I've run w/ some that couldn't dps their way out of a wet paper bag and stand in red all the time. So it really depends who's taken the time to research their class, and learn to play it.
Stack Defense/Deflect if thats your issue. I made the change about a week or so back and it was night and day as far as the damage I can take.
Yes AC and a few other stats don't seem to be working as intended but others are so you just need to play and use them.
make gf feel useless
Boy I feel so useless at the moment in T2's that I feel almost carried over on those dungeons.
Guess I need to find a upgrade for my main hand so I can dps better as the tanking tactic is not viable option.
When tanking you either:
A. Lose aggro to DC
B. Take massive amounts of damage eventhough you are wearing plate
C. Block 1 attack of the elite mob / boss and you brake your guard and revert back to B.
And on top of the guard issue, now blocking lags, which makes guarding even more harder.
The feat giving GF +5AC not working doesnt help. The block not working 40% of the time doesnt help either. GF are broken atm.
i always love play tank now feel dispoints and no honor play tank in here game
othere game make tank better
Its like any other game you have ever played...If you wanted to spec DPS and your class was a healer, that might you might have to sit on the side lines for a bit, But you knew that going into it. You can play a CC tank but that doesn't mean your wanted in a group right now. Just like I could play PURE DPS on my healer, but I would have a lot of upset and angry people w/ me.
here in neverwinter feel like gimp and useless class
better build cleric or control wizard or rogue
best class play in game now ?