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cera001
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Please fix this problem oh mighty and half asleep Cryptic. Every match I'm in one side has 2 or 3 bots not even counting my side. Address the issue in the forums please. Please tell me your at least working on it. This game is fast becoming Raiderz like in its flaws; another good game from perfect world but has world class terrible support. :cool:
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They need to just remove all the rewards for a lost match in PvP. It's not pretty, but it will get the job done. Remove profits for losses = removing the players that are only there to intentionally lose for profit.
I play PvP for fun. The rewards are a bonus. With or without the rewards, playing with bots is NOT fun.
Also, as someone who played RaiderZ for a short time, the maintenance is FAR superior here. For christ's sake, you STILL can't right-click to ignore bot spammers in RaiderZ.
I do pvp mostly for the AD, why should I be punished because there is a bot issue? I have 2 characters so as of now that is 6 pvp matches each day. I want to keep getting AD and the little glory this gives me win or lose.
For you the rewards may be a bonus but to me they are the reason I do pvp , the fun is secondary. I am sorry but capture the flag is just boring.
Are you going to tell me you idea of fun is better or more valid than my idea of fun?
All these bot would explain why I often have party members that don't speak in chat though and stupidly do the same things over and over etc.
Neverwinter Thieves Guild
Really how do i ruin pvp for everyone else, I dont cheat, I try to win and I don't sit at the spawn point? If we are going to start up this stupid line of reason I can say PVP is ruining pve for me.
GO play a REAL PVP game!
Seriously anyone that likes real pvp should be embarrassed to be defending this tacky pvp sytem as it it now.
Btw it actually a good way to make AD while you are leveling up. Not everyone rolls need on everything so they can sell overpriced t1 and t2 gear in the AH.
Neverwinter Thieves Guild
But if you're doing something that's not fun for you, you probably shouldn't do it at all. There are better and faster ways to make AD than the PvP dailies. And ways that would probably be more fun for you.
Go play a real farming game, if farming in-game currency is what you're here for. I hear d3 is great this time of year.
I didn't say it wasn't fun I said the fun was secondary. The problem is this really: all the pvp whiners want to try and turn this pvp into some kind of super competitive pvp, like there are tournaments for, that will require premades etc.
The pvp in this game is lacking and made to be casual.
If you want hardcore pvp go play a hardcore pvp game, is getting old people trying to turn a predominately pve licensed game in a pvp one.
Neverwinter Thieves Guild
What we want is the bots to be gone. Stop shoving words in our mouths to further your own agenda about what you want the PvP to be like.
I want the botters gone too, there's no need to nerf the rewards system to achieve this. Stop trying to put words into my mouth to further your own agenda.
Bah your just as much of a stubborn HAMSTER as me ranncore so lets just agree to disagree on this as both our heels are dug in and not open to compromise on this issue.
Neverwinter Thieves Guild
Fair enough. All I'm saying is that there is a solution to the botting and AFK issue. You have to decide what's more important: getting 3k xp and 100glory when you lose and playing with as many bots as there are players, or playing a REAL pvp match and not getting rewarded for it unless you win.
Me, I'll gladly give up the 100 glory and 3k xp on a loss to play a fun match.
I can't think of another solution that would get rid of both bots and players only present to intentionally lose for easy rewards, but if you can, feel free to share it.
Edit: altho I would hate to see this implemented, and it doesn't do anything for the AFKers, an easy fix for the bots would be to put in a CAPTCHA when the domination queue pops.
The worst part is that of those three games I had the same bot on my team each time and somehow he got lead 2 out of 3 games. Bots have to go but sadly dropping all rewards is not the way to go about it since they are already not scoring the item rewards and glory has a cap.
Wish I could come up with a better solution but so far no luck.
But the bots actually outperform people
Seriously I've been fighting alongside my good ol' buddy zxcv and he NEVER dissapoints.
Qinger is a bit HAMSTER ( he kept walking into walls ) but zxcv has actaully killed people. **** those bots are so persistent though. They Silence you no matter what and they don't stop coming.
I'll miss that crazy old fool ... zxcv you were my hero....
I like the rewards for pvp since it allows another avenue to level in and the AD daily helps keep the pvp mini-game queues short. However, I hate the current "afker"/ leaver situation so am open to anything.
That said, I think a more elegant solution than just eliminating points for losers is to set points and AD daily based on contribution. For example, kills and assists near or on points give 10/5 points, healing (not overhealing) gives some sort of points, capping gives 20 points. Winning also gives a set point bonus and the daily is only completed if you win a BG.
The more points you get the more xp/glory you get. This means that even if you are on a losing team there is still incentive to play since you could still get a lot of points by trying and playing the game right (capping/fighting on nodes); meanwhile you would get little or no points if you afk or leave.
The kicking system would then need to be changed to group vote, the queue system fixed, and an afkers/leavers debuff added to boot.
Yes, I do want them gone, but there will need to be a different solution, usually a very sophisticated one that we here on the forums have no clue about.
Also those banking the glory waiting for more items to show up in the shop (new classes?) or for the AD prices to simply get higher for whatever reason can't really do it either as there is a glory cap in the game. If they'd actually do a change like this the prices would 100% surely rise eventually.
Of course it will hinder them, it will make multibox afking in pvp bgs totally pointless and put the focus on actually playing to win-although as i said above giving points for active and meaningful participation regardless of win or loss would acheive the same thing and be better imo.
I understand economics very well, the problem is your assuming I do pvp to get glory to sell those items for more AD which is not the case.
I do pvp because it is quick and different and while leveling, gives you a small income of AD to spend on junk while leveling and it allows me to slowly acquire glory for later on at end game for the pvp armor or other items possibly it more is added etc.
The bots are doing what you think I am trying to do.
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I'll grant you that it would hinder a multibox base afk bot squadron. I was thinking of solo queue bots only.
Put in a vote kick.
There is PvP abusers.
You are joining pvp domination, after that they kick you and have fast win.
That happens from 10 till 60 lvl.
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Btw to take screenshot from game, that automatically hiding UI, but paint work well.