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PvE Power/Regen CW Build Or How I Saved Money on Potions by Switching Gear

arontimesarontimes Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
edited May 2013 in The Library
On a whim, I decided to change all of the equipment of my then level 37 CW (Aron Times of Netheril) to stack power and regeneration and possibly lifesteal. I went to the auction house and scoured it's inventory for level 37 and under items that fit the criteria, and my total was a little under 2000 AD, or 1776 AD to be precise. I got various Casters Item of Youth with sockets and equipped them on my toon. Aron then had around 9% regeneration, whatever that means. For the sockets, I equipped the ones I already had, three radiant 3s, one silver or was it azure 4, 2 dark 3s, and the rest 2s.

I tried jumping from a tall building in Protectors Enclave, but the passive health regen buff throughout the zone ruined my experiment, so I went to my current quest zone, the Ebon Downs. I queued up for the Defend the Temple skirmish, and then got placed into a team with one cleric, two rogues, one guardian fighter, and me, a control wizard. The team was pretty decent, though the cleric fell twice and one of the rogues fell once. Fortunately, we were able to revive them before they died.

It would've been just another skirmish if not for me never drinking a single potion the entire skirmish. Okay, so maybe we just had a good healer and a good tank. I then continued questing in the Ebon Downs, and found that I didn't have to drink any potions at all if I kited well. Against melee mobs, there really was no difference because they could never hit me anyway, but against ranged mobs, the passive regen saved me a lot of potions. And by a lot, I mean all of them. I haven't had to use a potion since re-equipping my toon.

I guess it's similar to how passive regen items work in DotA, LoL, and HoN. They don't seem like much, but they add up during the lulls in battle. Regen in NWO also doesn't let you wade into battle without thinking about your HP, but it adds up over time and takes a load off your healer.

I'm going to try and stack lifesteal as well, once I get to the levels where three high stats are common on items.
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  • demattodematto Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I agree that Regen can be pretty nice. There's a level 60 ring called Greater Stone of Health, or something like that. Gives 500HP and 188 regen with a Defense Socket, or something like that.
    I bought a pair for my CW while PVP'ing, and with only those 2 items giving me regen, I'll frequently tick 500health. Not bad, if you ask me. Particularly in PVP, where the only way to heal up is to Find a cleric, use an altar for 150/tick, or use a potion with a 2-minute cooldown.

    Of course, I don't know that you should skip the stats you need entirely, but if your upgrade just happens to be a Power/Recover/Regen item, so be it.

    As far as the way Regen Works, it seems to be based on the difference between your Current and Max HP. The ticks get larger as your health drops, and smaller as you approach full health.
  • arontimesarontimes Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Just did some research, and I think I know how it works. Basically, if you're bloodied (half HP or lower), you regain your regen % of your max HP every 3 seconds. When you go above half HP, your regen slows down by an undetermined amount. I have roughly 10000 HP, and my regen % is roughly 9%. If I'm bloodied, I regen 900 HP/3 seconds, or 300 HP/second. 12 seconds of bloodied regen heals 3600 HP, so it's like I'm getting a free potion during that time period.

    I'm level 39 right now, and I went an entire level (level 38) without drinking a healing potion. I've accumulated 20+ gold so far, and I expect this to rise quickly, since I'm no longer spending money on potions.

    Anyway, which level 60 items grant regen and lifesteal? I plan on stacking power, armor penetration, regen, and lifesteal for a vampire troll mage build. Is there a website which lists the various endgame items?
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  • sirgreenreefersirgreenreefer Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I never used a potion during leveling after getting my companion. Just stack offensive stats for one shooting weak mobs with chill strike and go to town with your cc on bigger mobs. Worked like a charm for me. +cleric is only companion worth something after lvl 40.
  • wingedkagoutiwingedkagouti Member Posts: 275 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    sirgreenreefer wrote: »
    +cleric is only companion worth something after lvl 40.
    Until you start doing Epic Dungeons. Cleric can be ok in Epic Cloak Tower and Cragmire, but those two can be easily done by any group composition you could think of anyway (as long as the players aren't stupid), including several 3-4 man groups. But in the ones after that? Cleric minion takes one hit to the face and is out of commision for the rest of the battle.
  • tyrtallowtyrtallow Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 747 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Back on topic, I agree with sirgreenreefer that you're much better off getting a cleric companion for leveling. 20% of your total max HP won't seem like a lot, but until you reach the Mindflayer area that should be the max amount of HP you lose per encounter. If you're taking a lot more damage then it's more a question of you needing to tweak your power choices. You should only be using healing potions if you aggro multiple groups, against particularly nasty groups (eg, lizardman mystics, Foundry quest groups) or if you make mistakes.
    By relying on the cleric companion you won't need to be so picky about what equipment you'll be using. This is important because unless you PvP, then constantly doing quests = very quick leveling. By the time you finish trying assemble level 40 gear you'll probably be level 43+. I've managed to skip certain dungeon queues because I forgot to press "k" and check if the queues had changed while I was questing/leveling.

    Still, this is very useful info on the regen stat.
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  • sirgreenreefersirgreenreefer Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    wingedkagouti wrote: »
    Until you start doing Epic Dungeons.
    We all know that at this level only stone and cat count.
  • arontimesarontimes Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Aron Times@arontimes is now level 39, really close to level 40, and I just finished the Throne of Idris without using any potions. In fact, I haven't used a single potion since I bought my new gear. My party had two TCs, one GF, one DC, and me, a CW. There were some points where I almost used a potion, but I decided to trust in my troll mage and I made it. Seriously, the regen spike when you get bloodied is just crazy. The skeleton archers just couldn't damage me fast enough while I was Magic Missile spamming them to Final Death.

    With the recent discovery that power doesn't scale well (it's additive instead of multiplicative) I think I might just go all out vampirism troll mage and go for lifesteal/regen, with a dash of recovery, armor penetration, and deflection. Still not sure if I will need lifesteal at the higher levels or if stacking regen is the way to go; there are currently very few endgame CW items that have both lifesteal and regen, if any.

    I'll keep you posted on my playthrough as I level up.
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  • juliostormjuliostorm Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    arontimes wrote: »
    Aron Times@arontimes is now level 39, really close to level 40, and I just finished the Throne of Idris without using any potions. In fact, I haven't used a single potion since I bought my new gear. My party had two TCs, one GF, one DC, and me, a CW. There were some points where I almost used a potion, but I decided to trust in my troll mage and I made it. Seriously, the regen spike when you get bloodied is just crazy. The skeleton archers just couldn't damage me fast enough while I was Magic Missile spamming them to Final Death.

    With the recent discovery that power doesn't scale well (it's additive instead of multiplicative) I think I might just go all out vampirism troll mage and go for lifesteal/regen, with a dash of recovery, armor penetration, and deflection. Still not sure if I will need lifesteal at the higher levels or if stacking regen is the way to go; there are currently very few endgame CW items that have both lifesteal and regen, if any.

    I'll keep you posted on my playthrough as I level up.

    yo, i dont want to trow a ice bucket on your head but...
    any companion who can be targeted, will die instantly in lvl 60 instances.
    another thing is about gold... you dont realy have anything usefull to do with gold, aside buy potions, so, i dont see a point on using regen gear, and crep your stats, slowing your lvling process.
    but hey, thats me, some ppls may disagree.
    keep the good job. :)
  • violated87violated87 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Hate to tell ya, but I did no such thing and never used potions while leveling until the upper 40s. You don't need regen to accomplish this, and you don't even need kiting skills because you can wipe out most groups with a simple tab Chill Strike followed by a Sudden Storm to clean up any stragglers. When I got to a point where mobs started leap attacking (upper 40s) I just started using Shield to absorb the initial burst and the cleric companion to top me back off. It wasn't until the mid to late 50s that I had to really start using pots to avoid downtime (not death, still could easily clear a pack without using pots, but I would be left below 50%).
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