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thestoryteller01
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MMOs - I have played them all since Ultima Online was in its prime.
Over the first years I became kind of addicted, I've started to apply for betas and after a while I got them, open as well as closed (mostly for german language versions).
I remember when I played the closed beta for Lord of the Rings Online....man was I SAD when they announced the wipe in the end. We all knew it was coming but I still felt cheated of all my progress, my experiences and my memories.
I continued to play it when it went live until the F2P change but that experience changed my attitude and I decided to stay away from closed betas after that and in the last 2 years I also stayed away from open betas for games I expected to like enough to fully commit myself. I didn't want to spoil the fun in playing bugged content, risk brutal nerfs of my favourite classes/powers/weapons or have to get along with half-baked trading/guild/PvP features.
I made an exception for Neverwinter just because I wanted to study the Foundry to be prepared when the game finally goes Live. I fast-levelled a character to 15 just for the Foundry access and to my surprise realized, I actually loved the game allready - so I continued playing, this time fully enjoying the ride.
But I ALWAYS knew that enjoying content was a risky business because it's still beta, open or not. I could have frozen my character, just praying daily for ADs and wait until the game goes Live, exploring the Foundry in the meantime but I wanted to play SO MUCH that I took the risk.
So this is the message:
If participating in an open beta we always risk that several things will happen that completely spoil our fun, make our efforts worthless or our RL investments questionable. On the other hand its human to be eager to try out new things and most gamers simply want to be "first".
So we all made the conscious decision not to wait until most things are ironed out but to enter the fray right now. And we all have to be ready to pay the price for being "first". Those who aren't should stay away from open betas from now on.
This 7 hour rollback wouldn't make it in my "worst 10 list" of beta experiences and I am 100% sure a lot of us had far worse in the past.
Over the first years I became kind of addicted, I've started to apply for betas and after a while I got them, open as well as closed (mostly for german language versions).
I remember when I played the closed beta for Lord of the Rings Online....man was I SAD when they announced the wipe in the end. We all knew it was coming but I still felt cheated of all my progress, my experiences and my memories.
I continued to play it when it went live until the F2P change but that experience changed my attitude and I decided to stay away from closed betas after that and in the last 2 years I also stayed away from open betas for games I expected to like enough to fully commit myself. I didn't want to spoil the fun in playing bugged content, risk brutal nerfs of my favourite classes/powers/weapons or have to get along with half-baked trading/guild/PvP features.
I made an exception for Neverwinter just because I wanted to study the Foundry to be prepared when the game finally goes Live. I fast-levelled a character to 15 just for the Foundry access and to my surprise realized, I actually loved the game allready - so I continued playing, this time fully enjoying the ride.
But I ALWAYS knew that enjoying content was a risky business because it's still beta, open or not. I could have frozen my character, just praying daily for ADs and wait until the game goes Live, exploring the Foundry in the meantime but I wanted to play SO MUCH that I took the risk.
So this is the message:
If participating in an open beta we always risk that several things will happen that completely spoil our fun, make our efforts worthless or our RL investments questionable. On the other hand its human to be eager to try out new things and most gamers simply want to be "first".
So we all made the conscious decision not to wait until most things are ironed out but to enter the fray right now. And we all have to be ready to pay the price for being "first". Those who aren't should stay away from open betas from now on.
This 7 hour rollback wouldn't make it in my "worst 10 list" of beta experiences and I am 100% sure a lot of us had far worse in the past.
In case you find my grammar or spelling weird ---> native german speaker 
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Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
When you start selling stuff, it stops being beta more or less. The main problem is that the "beta" label is currently (ab)used in the game industry when you sell unfinished product. More or less.
As someone who started a new toon and wanted to give the game try - only to see his 7h weekend progress gone, I'm not sure I have the energy to repeat it, with the damocles sword above my head and the somewhat high possibility that it will happen again.
Maybe I will just wait for a new server to be opened.
UO is still around
(And I'm as veteran a player as you are).
This is just what I am talking about. It doesn't matter if the game is "mislabelled" as Open Beta or not.
It's like paying the ticket for a movie that doesn't have reviews yet, buying a book just for the blurb (which i do btw) or getting a shows season dvd right after watching the pilot. Its always the decision to either wait and research before spending money and the urge to get something right now no matter what.
But in the end of the day it was MY decision to buy that movie ticket, book or dvd - or Founder Pack
Well, i can play only once a week (if at all), and that was yesterday. So for me its whole week not 7 hours, because i wont be able to do same progress till next weekend.
I can't stand WoW but this is nonsense. The WoW launch was very good. There were problems but to say that was the worst is such a lie. It was actually one of the best.
Star Trek online was by far the worst. You had the federation vs the klingons BUT they hadn't even made any quests for the Klingon side ALL you could do was pvp with them. My lord the amount wrong with that game at launch was unparalleled.
oh well, moving on...
laters
jell0r
WoW wasn't playable its first week, maybe longer. It is like SimCity x3.
Be honest with yourself, this is what a lot of you are doing.
Most want a proper wipe and know they are playing and investing in a game which has a future not a broken economy and exploited level 60s toons with exploited gear
Ofc if this happened say months after launch i say no option but to continue but it happened early in NW life and should have been adressed properly
Got same situation with TS.
Played most of well known titles starting from UO.
Bad things happen.
Much worse things happen.
This rollback is nothing.
I'm also known to BS.
Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
Regarding WoW i think you are looking at it through rose coloured glasses. The launch was terrible. The EU server I was in was unstable for literally months with frequent DT, DC and a hundred other acronyms. The AH was forever down, mail would go missing and the PvP suffered every problem Neverwinter has. The launch of Burning Crusade was more of the same.
People see a few threads on a forum and then use the words "most", "majority" but that is not very accurate. There will always be a loud vocal minority on game forums. Eve has probably had the worst followed by WoW.
STO was an unmitigated disaster. There is no defence for that game. Cryptic should have done what the previous developer did and cut their losses.
I do however, love the way you insult other players just because you and a few others feel that wiping the game would improve it magically. It won't.