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ogkelt
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A full team of level 35 and 36 doing the dungeon with the green dragon, a quest listed as lvl 34, and never able to finish the final encounter. Ended up losing party members to rage quit after 4 or 5 wipes. Impossible to finish that dungeon.
Running a solo lvl 35 cleric, can't even make it from the campfire by the pub to the doors of the citadel to plant the four swords without dying.
My girlfriend was soloing in tower and couldn't even free the 5 guards without dying multiple times and in the end just giving up.
Was able to solo just fine before that last patch. wtf is going on here?
Running a solo lvl 35 cleric, can't even make it from the campfire by the pub to the doors of the citadel to plant the four swords without dying.
My girlfriend was soloing in tower and couldn't even free the 5 guards without dying multiple times and in the end just giving up.
Was able to solo just fine before that last patch. wtf is going on here?
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It used to be easier? O.o I thought it's always been that difficult. I just recently hit 30+ to be able to do that dungeon on my main (lvl33 cleric atm) and the lowest I've seen him go down before my whole group wipes is 50%.
I thought it was just me. I solo'd up until now (Lvl 38), but now I just shake my head. While I don't think a char should just sail past mobs their own level or higher, it's fairly obvious that the Devs should continue to look at balancing mob strength AGAIN. At almost level 39, I can't get my Cleric & her companion past level 35 mob groups in Ebon Downs. While I expect to be challenged, I don't expect to be nerfed. If you want my money, then please re-look at balance. Even your own loading screens state that regular content is expected to be done with a character and companion.
On my Cleric, of 3 attempts before outlvling it, and with a smart Rogue I've played together with for years protecting me from the adds, and despite trying 3-4 times each run, we wiped every time. Most of those wipes were during the 2nd wave of Super-Adds that spawn, we did fine till then and just got overwhelmed.
Part of the problem is the sheer amount of **** going on. Part of it is the Cleric's lack of Stamina & regen only letting you dodge very little vs the tons of Sta & fast regen my Wizard has. Part of it is the fact that those little ****-imps Slow you when they hit you, and since Clerics will be tanking any trash the Wizards don't aoe down quick enough, I spent most of my time slowed or kiting around the wizard(s) just to stay alive.
The combination of being slowed by the imps, out of stamina from dodging the CONSTANT red spots on the floor from both the dragon & the devil mages, and the Dragon's random freezing + the Devil Mages STILL spawning while the super-adds are up kind of pushes the difficulty a little too high, too suddenly. Don't get me wrong, I like Challenges, but this boss fight feels like they overdid it just a little. The later bosses really aren't anywhere near as hard as the Dragon is. They're challenging, but the Adds are a littl TOO constant + the slowing of the imps is just downright not fun and unfair to the healer whose job is already thankless and it's hard enough to find a good one as it is without making them give up playing the class because they have to tank everything.
At least you can dodge sometimes, try playing a GF with all those circles plopping up (in Grey Wolf a few minutes ago). You can only try to walk out, but many are so short you won#t make it, get knocked up (blockable), fall down, take 3.5k damage and fall or your face, just to have the boss on you whacking you for another 5-6k. it is nearly impossible to even block most strong mob attacks. I don't know if it is the latency in EU or if the timings are just super tight, but i have mostly given up on blocking most things, i will get hit even with the shield up anyway.
This is -exactly- why I abandoned my GF and don't like the GWF gameplay. Even without the lag the lack of a dodge on the tank is HAMSTER, and this is one of the few times a GF is actually -useful- in a dungeon, keeping the Dragon pulled against a wall and turned towards it so the rest of the group doesn't have to worry about dodging that straight-line acid "sidewalk" attack he has + keeps him out of the way when adds spawn so the Wizard(s) have a better view of the battlefield.
About to start telling people in groups to bring 200-300+ heal potions or not bother coming (any dungeon run). The encounters just seem to be getting harder. Got Pirate King down on 6th engage yesterday had to give people heal potions. Don't forget about buff potions too folks. If everyone pops buff potions before boss engages helps a ton.
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Seriously, this is a "new" thing? Since headstart people have been complaining about how hard it is.
So basically you had a premade that has worked together before. I am talking about PUGs with maybe 3 people total who had ever even been in the dungeon. If it requires an experienced premade to complete that leaves... what, 90% of the player base unable to complete this official dungeon? Unacceptable. This is not completable by people who a) haven't already done it and somehow lucked into a team that has the same experience, or b) a premade. Just because you, the elite teamster found it to be a challenge doesn't make it doable by the vast majority of the players of NWO.
Also the practice of upping the difficulty by adding endless waves of summons/adds is not a quality quest or challenge. Its a lazy way of doing things without having to code unique encounters. I expected the first dragon to be a challenge, I didn't expect it to be a cheesy "see how many adds can be thrown at the team" pseudo challenge.
Part of me wonders if the difficulty level isn't designed to get you to buy those full heal stones and/or the rez scrolls from the zen store.
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If any boss/encounter requires the use of 200-300 potions there is deffo something wrong with the game mechanics. Heal potions are a last resort with the healer being able to heal the group. If the healer can't do this then the the healer needs addressing or the encounter is doing too much damage.
It's a really fun fight and I would be sad if they nerfed it :C
Gg.
I don't remember saying I was in a premade. The only person I knew in the group was my fiance who was the TR. I merely listed the comp that the random dungeon finder gave us. So no it does not take a premade to clear and can be done by a random group of people as long as they know how to play a video game. It would be a giant mistake to cater to a small minority of people who cant take the time to learn a fight by making everything a face roll.
while i agree that the endless waves of summoned add bull**** is irritating, both of these points are completely false.
i queued up for epic mad dragon last night. the queue gave me the following team:
1 CW
1 DC (myself)
2 GF (yes, guardian fighters)
1 TR
and guess what? we completed the entire instance. it took a few tries, sure, and even my friends who were 10k gs+ and completed all content (but castlenever) told me to quit the group. i do agree its a cheesy add fight, but saying its not able to be completed by PUGs is downright bull****.