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jester3993
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From what I've seen so far, it's pretty hilarious. As a former healer gone wizard for this game, I have a soft spot in my heart for those who choose the healer role. It's not an easy one, and even more so in this game with the aggro issues.
Most runs are like this....
The rogue gets the first hit because they feel the need to stay in the #1 spot for most damage done.
The tank might manage to hold aggro until someone starts taking damage.
The cleric throws out ONE tiny heal--BOOM the entire room of adds flock to the cleric.
The wizard tries to slow the angry mobs, but more mobs are jumping out of trees with the cleric's name as a war-cry.
The tank keeps trying to grab aggro back, but ends up just running around looking silly.
...all the while the rest of the group is oblivious to everything else and keeps wailing away on the boss.
Working as intended? Don't get me wrong, it's entertaining, but surely this isn't what the devs had in mind for a typical boss fight.
Most runs are like this....
The rogue gets the first hit because they feel the need to stay in the #1 spot for most damage done.
The tank might manage to hold aggro until someone starts taking damage.
The cleric throws out ONE tiny heal--BOOM the entire room of adds flock to the cleric.
The wizard tries to slow the angry mobs, but more mobs are jumping out of trees with the cleric's name as a war-cry.
The tank keeps trying to grab aggro back, but ends up just running around looking silly.
...all the while the rest of the group is oblivious to everything else and keeps wailing away on the boss.
Working as intended? Don't get me wrong, it's entertaining, but surely this isn't what the devs had in mind for a typical boss fight.
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And he does this how? With halitosis and strong language?
There are no boss fights, it's all about much extra trash they can throw at you.
No interesting boss mechanics at all, not solo content, not in dungeons, nowhere.
Although, I actually had a good group today. The GF in my team held aggro most of the time and team helped CC and stuff.
Except this has nothing to do with that, it's about people ignoring the adds to dps the boss.
Every time i run a dungeon, i stop focusing on the boss when the adds come out, and i'm the only one it seems. So they all decide to come at me, while everyone else still attacks the boss, and the ones that spawn more at points, then do so, which all come after me. Ugh... What's even more annoying is when they decide to loot while the adds are still there and carefully stand around comparing stats. Hate. That.
When people do get the adds, i feel so grateful, but it's so rare.
No with AOE melee attacks staying close to the cleric and pretending he's a half-orc (or human) lawn mower, and making good use of the Slam Daily.
To be honest, I haven't had one in my group yet. Either hardly anyone is playing them or they're running in static groups.
I was gonna say the group leader kicked them out of the party. >.>
They have not, however, said when said issue will be placed upon the dev's platter of issues to fix.
HOWEVER.....
I throw smoke bomb to daze the adds, path of blades to constantly hit them, use my bait and switch to trick them off the cleric.....WHY ARE THEY STILL CHASING HER??? It's like they won't stop,can't stop till the cleric is dead regardless of however many i hit or kill.
It's not my damage...there isn't anything non purple or blue on me.....-__-
The majority of the map I go from add to add, stunning the big guys and clearing the trash.
It usually works well.
My 60 cleric got 60 last night.
Both are 10k GS.
Honestly, it's not hard to tank/kite the adds and it makes bosses much easier to kill.
I have already run multiple T2's as a healer (and run all of them as a wizard). I heal the group, tank/kite the adds while they kill the boss.
Once boss is dead we kill adds, or if we are lazy, we wipe, let adds despawn, then continue on.
Adds are coming non stop. You have very little time between add spawns, and that's if you are killing them almost instantly, if you aren't then you will have all your DPS killing adds the whole time - making the fight 10 times longer than it needs to be.
And tanks? what are those?
We have never used a GF in any instance. 1 cleric, 2 wizards a rogue and a gwf, or a combination of those classes, once in a while 2 clerics (makes fights so easy lol). Who cares who hits the boss first, every ability is easily able to be avoided. If you wizard or rogue want to hit the boss first, good, DPS is important, the faster you kill the boss the faster the fight is over.
Once you get AS sure a DC can tank a few of the adds but until then the DC really can't stand up to too much punishment from adds. Once u get AS it becomes alittle easier tho.
Wait until you start doing epic Karuundax or Epic Spell Plagued, or Epic anything.
She can take a punch and until at least level 50 and a respec the rest of the party is so out of luck for heals.
It's not even challenging, it's annoying. This is not an action rpg. It's just a traditional MMO with a targeting reticle on your screen.
Raiderz doesen't need adds for a boss to be challenging. Neverwinter shouldn't need them either.
I want this class in NW.
Fully agree with the guy complaining about not being consulted re:meatshield.
'Dps the boss, ignore adds, we'll live through it because of Astral Shield'
EASY ENOUGH FOR YOU TO SAY.
The problem is that the astral shield really needs to be divine. And if you can't stop to cast once in a while, you can't get divinity, and everyone will die from standing in the bad that your magic shield is supposed to save them from (as opposed to moving 3 inches).
Also, to the people who pull that stunt in fights with adds with ranged AAs... you utter, utter HAMSTER.
May as well remove them for what good they are.
The problem is that most of the people bash this build for the knockbacks, because "it hurts their DPS", therefore I don't see such builds as often as I'd like to. Most CWs focus on dmg only and have no or almost no CC.
Regards,
Kalantris
I (Rogue) was in an epic dungeon (Mad Dragon) with a fantastic group the other day, 2 healers 1 GWF and 1 GF. and the healers did a fantastic job on while we were fighting the dragon.
The GF Tanked the dragon while the healers kept him up and the GWF and myself protected the healers, when all the add’s were down I would help the GF on the dragon but only while under stealth as to not draw agro onto myself, when the fiend spawned towards the end I did as much DPS against it as I could staying very close to the healers, they did a great job and I took very little damage, the GWF took care of the smaller adds. It was the best team work I have ever seen with a random group of people, and all coms were through the party chat, except for the GF who was talking through the in game VIOP system
Was absolutely epic and so rewarding to be in group of random players each playing there parts so well... I personally love having at least 1 healer in epic dungeons
I was once grouped with 4 rogues and a control wizard on the Mad dragon and well we couldn’t get passed the first boss
In some ways Neverwinter is a very elitist game. It's not like other games where a better tank just makes the healer's job a bit easier but the party still needs all the roles filled. In Neverwinter, great players change not only the strategy for the fight but the best party composition.
I don't think it's supposed to be that way. I think the game design is broken. The best players should be the best at their roles, not reach a point where they can discard roles and basically start exploiting fight mechanics.