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Afk pvp solution
cmnewland
Member Posts: 8 Arc User
Obviously and unfortunately the new patch didn't do anything to resolve the situation with the afk pvpers. The problem is rarely if ever do the pvpers actually afk. They just do not leave the spawn point. A simple solution would be to make the starting platform area have a 30 second timer in which you are required to leave the zone. If you do not leave the zone in time you will be removed from the match and receive no experience. Another solution that comes to mind would be to give the winning team substantially more experience for winning the match to make it in everyone's best interest to win the match. One or both of these changes would not only fix the issue but also make for more exciting and rewarding gameplay. The problem as it stands is just that there is simply no incentive the leave the spawn area given you receive a giant amount of experience still and glory as well even though you did nothing. Just give people incentive to leave spawn or incentive not to stay.
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Say for instance in the first bracket(10-19) you received 1 point of experience for each point your team accumulated. winning team gets 2.then increase that number by 1 for each new bracket. i/e 20-29 gets 2 per point winning team gets 4 all the way up to the 50-59 bracket where it would be 5 and 10 for the winner totalling a max of 10000 exp per match. I think this would be good exp for the current levels and should scale nicely to fit the new levels in each bracket. And would give incentive to not stay in spawn if you want any reward.
What the community has been calling "afk" is just a general term for players sitting through pvp matches (usually at spawn) doing nothing-they are not necessarily "afk". At least if they have to go down and get killed that would be a good start to a comprehensive solution.
If they have to move out of the spawn zone within 30 secs or get kicked they'll simply move out of the spawn zone and then stop, get killed and repeat. The only way to stop it is for cryptic to ensure that everyone that does it gets banned but the time, money and resources required to investigate every claim makes that idea unfeasible.
I don't really think banning people is the solution. It is not necessarily anyone's fault but the designers that people do this. What people need is incentive and reward for effort and to get no reward when they don't put forth that effort.
Also another problem that stands with the fix in the newest patch is that if the opposing team doesn't cap a single point then the match doesn't even last long enough for the system to even flag them afk. I believe it takes 5 minutes to be flagged as afk and i don't believe it even last 5 minutes.
I agree with this completely. It may seem complicated but what is causing it is very simple. It is human nature to do the least effort to attain the greatest result. People will choose the path of least resistance. What must be done is eliminate reward from paths of least resistance.
That is way too long! 1 min at the most; in most games I can barely look away for 5 secs let alone stand around for a minute doing nothing.
There are far too many ways to work around a useless AFK system. Having players "Need" to leave the spawn point won't change anything.
What they need to do, is simply this; Losers gain NO GLORY, that way, there's no incentive to actually do PvP if you're just going to lose on purpose.
Yes, this is a bit harsh, and forces players to have a good team, and it does hurt a lot of people who are actually trying to win and lose. But, that's what T1 dungeons are for as well, to get geared so you CAN do PvP.
I'm not saying this is the "best" way to go, they would definitely need to work on a matchmaking system to put players of the same "skill" base together, maybe start keeping track of Wins/Losses, and match-make players based on their win/loss ration.
But... This is the ONLY method that will keep AFK PvP players out of PvP, is if PWE/Cryptic decided to hand out no glory to losers of the PvP match. Otherwise, there will ALWAYS, be a work around for AFK PvP.
Because Neverwinter only uses 3 large servers (and their eventual plan is to merge these into 1 server) there will be tons of players in the available pool. In other games with 20+ servers, you simply don't have the people on each server to segregate them further into skill brackets, but it works on larger mega-servers.
With a skill matching system, not only do you get more balanced teams, but you also eventually get into a situation where all of the afkers become grouped together at the bottom of the ladder, as AFKers tend to have far more losses than wins (since they continually put their own team down a man.)
-Travail.
1. Make PvP gear BoA. People who AFK for that to sell will disappear.
2. Tie point gain to experience. Even the crappiest PvPer can manage 1200-2000 points a game. this forces players to participate if they want anything out of the match.
The developers want to stop people going AFK.
They can't.
Only way I can see is to instead make going AFK pointless.
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It's because most normal people dislike cheating wankers. I'm sorry to hear you're not in that group.
But, to turn your statement around: I've never seen anything to beat MMO players & their proclivity for finding ways to profit while not actually playing the game.
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Once the servers are consolidated into one shard, this is the solution. Ive already suggested it on multiple fronts. Either use win loss ratio, or average score.
The afkers will end up with other afkers and the people who actually play will end up with others who actually play.
Doubtful. You still get glory and XP gain from a loss so they'd be morons to leave with nothing instead of something.
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