erebaneMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 1Arc User
edited May 2013
The chick that sells stuff for crystals sells them next to the Kryx? creature that gives you crystals
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astaziaMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 51
edited May 2013
They cost AD. You can buy them from the bazar from anywhere in the world, but honestly after about level 20 they stop being useful. I've found there's no reason to pick up greens at that point, you don't need any more gold and it just wastes bag space. You get enough upgrades from quests and blue drops, and you'll find more than enough scrolls to ID every blue you find.
hmm i guess i'm not that lucky.. all i ever see are green drops and my charactor is 24.. do i have to do group quests for the blue stuff?
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astaziaMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 51
edited May 2013
Mostly. I've found like 5 or 6 random un-ID'ed blue drops from solo content, can get a lot of ID'ed blues from bosses and chests in group stuff, and then there's easy blues from crafting. Excluding all that, you can buy a full set of blue gear at level 20 for like under 1g total (9s a piece) from vendors, and after that there's blues on the AH for under 100 AD all the way up into the higher levels. At 20 I buy the full blue set and from that point on don't really bother with random greens anymore.
Once you start doing better mishes they drop by the dozen Ive got like over 100 now. It also begs the question whats the point if they begin to drop so much they stop being a game mechanic and become a pain in the ***. Why not have the loot identified to begin with :<
Sad? Well it would make the CEO's of a large business like PWE sad if they spent a ton of dough to develop a game such as NWO and never see anything in return for that investment because they couldn't find a way to earn any money off of it. Instead of whining that you actually have to buy only a few things in a F2P game, a game that you can honestly enjoy without spending a cent, why don't you come up with other ideas on how they could provide an income from their investment if you're so upset about it? If they had no means to earn an income from the game, there would be no game.
Monetizing ID scrolls, which are needed to use the gear that you get from drops, is absolutely ridiculous. PWE will never get a single dime from me for this. Honestly, it is a bunch of <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> and just feels bad for the players. Guaranteed this "mechanic" will drive away more people like myself than it brings in revenue for PWE. To PWE: Stop being greedy <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>.
To the poster above me: PWE is a billion dollar company. This attempted cash grab from id scrolls is not needed and a horrible idea. Look at how well trying to force people to spend money worked for SWTOR. Here's a hint: it didn't and the game is dying because of it.
Monetizing ID scrolls, which are needed to use the gear that you get from drops, is absolutely ridiculous. PWE will never get a single dime from me for this. Honestly, it is a bunch of <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> and just feels bad for the players. Guaranteed this "mechanic" will drive away more people like myself than it brings in revenue for PWE. To PWE: Stop being greedy <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>.
Unless you're identifying every single drop you find you'll more than likely not have a problem with identifying things and even that's mostly a problem at level 60. I personally think they do cost a bit much at 60 but daily invoking should give you at least enough to buy 10 or so or them. And doing some dailies a bunch more. Nobody has to spend real money on ID scrolls.. ever!
Seems like yet another whole bunch of crying "cash grab" over nothing.
Monetizing ID scrolls, which are needed to use the gear that you get from drops, is absolutely ridiculous. PWE will never get a single dime from me for this. Honestly, it is a bunch of <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> and just feels bad for the players. Guaranteed this "mechanic" will drive3 away more people like myself than it brings in revenue for PWE. To PWE: Stop being greedy <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>.
To the poster above me: PWE is a billion dollar company. This attempted cash grab from id scrolls is not needed and a horrible idea. Look at how well trying to force people to spend money worked for SWTOR. Here's a hint: it didn't and the game is dying because of it.
The thing is everything is a horrible idea to someone. Everything. Some don't like paying for respecs, ID scrolls, enchantment protections, whatever. Any single thing they decide to charge for someone will come up with a logical reason why its a horrible idea and ruining the game. Heck to some people the game being ftp in the first place is a horrible idea.
They obviously looked at stuff and made their decisions. Maybe they'll adjust things later, maybe not. But that doesn't mean its the end of the world... or the game.
I have literally IDed every green drop for my class I have ever gotten, except in the cases of maybe 5 total where I had just equipped a blue in that slot. I have needed to buy a total of maybe 50 ID scrolls to do this on all of my characters combined. At 15 or even 45 AD each, that's 45*50=2250AD. That's right, quite a bit less than 1 daily dungeon.
Wow, they sure are monetizing ID scrolls. /sarcasm
Get this, they obviously are not monetizing the scrolls. What they are used for is a money sink. They cost AD, you are extremely easily able to get enough AD to buy every single character all the ID scrolls they ever need in maybe 1.5 hours (that's 1 daily dungeon, 1 daily skirmish, 1 daily foundry, and 1 daily pvp). The point isn't to make money off of them, its to have a way of removing AD from the system to prevent hyper inflation that comes with a currency that is infinity generating with no money sink.
Anyone who says they are monetizing them is either lying or incompetent.
To the poster above me: PWE is a billion dollar company. This attempted cash grab from id scrolls is not needed and a horrible idea. Look at how well trying to force people to spend money worked for SWTOR. Here's a hint: it didn't and the game is dying because of it.
Look at how well trying to force people to spend money worked for WoW. Here's a hint: Billions. Literally billions of USD.
Must be nice, all the people that say they have plenty. I haven't been able to wear a green in 5 levels now cause of no scrolls, and i'm not even 10 yet.
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rapticorMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,078Arc User
Must be nice, all the people that say they have plenty. I haven't been able to wear a green in 5 levels now cause of no scrolls, and i'm not even 10 yet.
At 11 you'll be able to invoke. Scrolls at that point are only 15AD. You could also do the skirmishs while the skirmish events are active with the bonus AD reward. At 8-11 or so you can do the Blacklake Skirmish which takes about 5 minutes so just do that like 10 times and there you go.. An easy 10k AD.
They cost AD. You can buy them from the bazar from anywhere in the world, but honestly after about level 20 they stop being useful. I've found there's no reason to pick up greens at that point, you don't need any more gold and it just wastes bag space. You get enough upgrades from quests and blue drops, and you'll find more than enough scrolls to ID every blue you find.
And then you hit 60, start doing heroics and realize you need tons of gold for injury kits because pugs you go with sill are stuck in low level cloak tower mentality of "cleric tanks adds, we zerg boss, free loot".
Must be nice, all the people that say they have plenty. I haven't been able to wear a green in 5 levels now cause of no scrolls, and i'm not even 10 yet.
You get two free ID scrolls in the tutorial. Another 5 from the adventurers chest when you hit level 5. That's 7 scrolls handed to you by level 5. Even if you decided to identify the shoes that you get, that still leaves 6 scrolls.
If you are not yet level 10, just how, exactly, have you been unable to identify any greens for more than 5 levels?
Oh, and just as a public service announcement: Don't ID green stuff that you have outleveleled or can not equip.
Probably not the worst idea not to ID those tutorial shoes, either. Not like they are going to make much difference between success and failure.
So yeah it looks like it isn't so bad after level 11... the price in diamonds isn't horrible. Plus the 10 you get from the level 10 box that let me id a bunch of stuff I had in inventory. Guess being a loot *****/pack rat is tougher in this game than most though. Thanks to the poster up there that pointed me towards the level 11 invocation quest, I wouldn't have found out about it right off without the hint.
I have literally IDed every green drop for my class I have ever gotten, except in the cases of maybe 5 total where I had just equipped a blue in that slot. I have needed to buy a total of maybe 50 ID scrolls to do this on all of my characters combined. At 15 or even 45 AD each, that's 45*50=2250AD. That's right, quite a bit less than 1 daily dungeon.
Wow, they sure are monetizing ID scrolls. /sarcasm
This. Yeah, I'm not at cap yet, but the most I've done on each of my characters is buy an initial 10 tier-2 ID scrolls when I started getting lv30 gear. As mentioned, I don't ID things that are of no interest - greens for other classes, stuff that I've got higher-level already, etc. Scrolls from drops is plenty.
edit: actually, I should probably ID more things at low level. Most of my characters, when they transition to normal ID scrolls, have 30-50 Minor ones left over.
(blue items, on the other hand.... I've maybe gotten six random blue drops across all my characters, and that's six characters between 20 and 40. And maybe another 6 from dungeons - I only roll greed on blues I can't use. Green is my normal level of equipment.)
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rapticorMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,078Arc User
edited May 2013
I think the first two scroll tiers are balanced in the game as far as AD cost goes. I do think the level 60 scrolls should be 75 instead of 145. Since you do need to ID more stuff for the gold if you do a lot of epic stuff and will need heal potions and kits. Its still doable.. It's just a bit more painful.
Wat annoyed me more than anything however was not being able to use a level 59 scroll on a level 59 item when I was level 60. The description says nothing about MY level!
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rapticorMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,078Arc User
Some people play casually so maybe they only pray once a day, where someone like you might do it 20 times a day
From what I gather you only get AD on the first 3 invokes of the day with the first one the largest amount then going down with the next two. Usually something like 1000/600/300 (not exact numbers but generally seems to scale like that). So even if someone is only on for an hour that's still two invokes and easily enough to keep them in ID scrolls through level 59.
From what I gather you only get AD on the first 3 invokes of the day with the first one the largest amount then going down with the next two. Usually something like 1000/600/300 (not exact numbers but generally seems to scale like that). So even if someone is only on for an hour that's still two invokes and easily enough to keep them in ID scrolls through level 59.
I think there is a daily max or something, as i recall my level 58 cleric only gets ad (or anything besides the buff) the first time.
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I think the first two scroll tiers are balanced in the game as far as AD cost goes. I do think the level 60 scrolls should be 75 instead of 145. Since you do need to ID more stuff for the gold if you do a lot of epic stuff and will need heal potions and kits. Its still doable.. It's just a bit more painful.
You only really need to ID stuff until you get level 60 blues or better for each slot. Once you start getting more Epic dungeon stuff (blue or purple) you should be using less and less ID scrolls, I'm currently carrying around 50ish Greaters on my main because I don't need to ID greens (which I usually Greed/Pass on anyway, no need to clutter your inventory with <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>). At level 60 greens should only be considered things you use to satisfy GS to enter Epic Dungeons until you get better stuff.
I've found that soloing Foundry missions is a good source of ID scrolls at 60, if you don't waste the ones you get on the first slightly shiny green that drops.
Wat annoyed me more than anything however was not being able to use a level 59 scroll on a level 59 item when I was level 60. The description says nothing about MY level!
Ive not run into that at all if I have normal and Greater ID scrolls in my inventory. Are you entirely sure that it was a level 59 item and ID scroll?
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Thats just gives me a sad :<
Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
Sad? Well it would make the CEO's of a large business like PWE sad if they spent a ton of dough to develop a game such as NWO and never see anything in return for that investment because they couldn't find a way to earn any money off of it. Instead of whining that you actually have to buy only a few things in a F2P game, a game that you can honestly enjoy without spending a cent, why don't you come up with other ideas on how they could provide an income from their investment if you're so upset about it? If they had no means to earn an income from the game, there would be no game.
To the poster above me: PWE is a billion dollar company. This attempted cash grab from id scrolls is not needed and a horrible idea. Look at how well trying to force people to spend money worked for SWTOR. Here's a hint: it didn't and the game is dying because of it.
This is an open beta. Start treating it like one.
Unless you're identifying every single drop you find you'll more than likely not have a problem with identifying things and even that's mostly a problem at level 60. I personally think they do cost a bit much at 60 but daily invoking should give you at least enough to buy 10 or so or them. And doing some dailies a bunch more. Nobody has to spend real money on ID scrolls.. ever!
Seems like yet another whole bunch of crying "cash grab" over nothing.
The thing is everything is a horrible idea to someone. Everything. Some don't like paying for respecs, ID scrolls, enchantment protections, whatever. Any single thing they decide to charge for someone will come up with a logical reason why its a horrible idea and ruining the game. Heck to some people the game being ftp in the first place is a horrible idea.
They obviously looked at stuff and made their decisions. Maybe they'll adjust things later, maybe not. But that doesn't mean its the end of the world... or the game.
Wow, they sure are monetizing ID scrolls. /sarcasm
Get this, they obviously are not monetizing the scrolls. What they are used for is a money sink. They cost AD, you are extremely easily able to get enough AD to buy every single character all the ID scrolls they ever need in maybe 1.5 hours (that's 1 daily dungeon, 1 daily skirmish, 1 daily foundry, and 1 daily pvp). The point isn't to make money off of them, its to have a way of removing AD from the system to prevent hyper inflation that comes with a currency that is infinity generating with no money sink.
Anyone who says they are monetizing them is either lying or incompetent.
Look at how well trying to force people to spend money worked for WoW. Here's a hint: Billions. Literally billions of USD.
At 11 you'll be able to invoke. Scrolls at that point are only 15AD. You could also do the skirmishs while the skirmish events are active with the bonus AD reward. At 8-11 or so you can do the Blacklake Skirmish which takes about 5 minutes so just do that like 10 times and there you go.. An easy 10k AD.
You get two free ID scrolls in the tutorial. Another 5 from the adventurers chest when you hit level 5. That's 7 scrolls handed to you by level 5. Even if you decided to identify the shoes that you get, that still leaves 6 scrolls.
If you are not yet level 10, just how, exactly, have you been unable to identify any greens for more than 5 levels?
Oh, and just as a public service announcement: Don't ID green stuff that you have outleveleled or can not equip.
Probably not the worst idea not to ID those tutorial shoes, either. Not like they are going to make much difference between success and failure.
Some people play casually so maybe they only pray once a day, where someone like you might do it 20 times a day
This. Yeah, I'm not at cap yet, but the most I've done on each of my characters is buy an initial 10 tier-2 ID scrolls when I started getting lv30 gear. As mentioned, I don't ID things that are of no interest - greens for other classes, stuff that I've got higher-level already, etc. Scrolls from drops is plenty.
edit: actually, I should probably ID more things at low level. Most of my characters, when they transition to normal ID scrolls, have 30-50 Minor ones left over.
(blue items, on the other hand.... I've maybe gotten six random blue drops across all my characters, and that's six characters between 20 and 40. And maybe another 6 from dungeons - I only roll greed on blues I can't use. Green is my normal level of equipment.)
Wat annoyed me more than anything however was not being able to use a level 59 scroll on a level 59 item when I was level 60. The description says nothing about MY level!
From what I gather you only get AD on the first 3 invokes of the day with the first one the largest amount then going down with the next two. Usually something like 1000/600/300 (not exact numbers but generally seems to scale like that). So even if someone is only on for an hour that's still two invokes and easily enough to keep them in ID scrolls through level 59.
I've found that soloing Foundry missions is a good source of ID scrolls at 60, if you don't waste the ones you get on the first slightly shiny green that drops. Ive not run into that at all if I have normal and Greater ID scrolls in my inventory. Are you entirely sure that it was a level 59 item and ID scroll?