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mickst3rmickst3r Member Posts: 14 Arc User
edited May 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
So I've seen this happen quite regularly where some GM in game would keep talking in Global chat in a foreign language to someone I do not know.
Why is he talking in non-english in an english server? Y in global? It is kind of annoying...
Anyone else experience this?
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  • scififan78scififan78 Member Posts: 1,386 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Just because the servers are in an English speaking country, does not mean that all the players are. I see other languages in the zone chat all the time on STO.
  • protocol87protocol87 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 85
    edited May 2013
    That's odd what server? Never seen it on Dragon.
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  • kojirenkojiren Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    It's not the admin talking in foreign, it's a system message. Just as you see people getting the nightmare inferno from the boxes in english, people with other languages set gets their name put into that language. So if my language is set to german, that system message will appear to everyone in german.

    On-top of that, they are not english servers, but rather international servers. Anyone can play on them.
  • fongadorfongador Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 264 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    I could deal without those messages regardless the language it is in. I really don't need to know every five minutes when someone got their inferno horsey thingy.
  • kojirenkojiren Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    fongador wrote: »
    I could deal without those messages regardless the language it is in. I really don't need to know every five minutes when someone got their inferno horsey thingy.

    I agree completely. At first when people were getting it it was a rare "Congrats, you got it." Now it's a "X has gotten it" 2,652, "X has gotten it, 2,653. It's pretty much gone past the point of having bragging rights from your luck to a "Yaaay, another one."
  • kiralynkiralyn Member Posts: 1,440 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    fongador wrote: »
    I could deal without those messages regardless the language it is in. I really don't need to know every five minutes when someone got their inferno horsey thingy.

    What I did was open the UI modding (Esc -> UI something something), and dragged that notification message out of the center of the screen. It still pops up, but it's less noticeable when it's not right in my face.
  • mconosrepmconosrep Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    kiralyn wrote: »
    What I did was open the UI modding (Esc -> UI something something), and dragged that notification message out of the center of the screen. It still pops up, but it's less noticeable when it's not right in my face.

    Nice idea - will try that too.
  • isopointisopoint Member Posts: 193 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    I've only seen german for some reason, but why it does it "overwrite" the language? One time even the boss name came up as german. Shouldn't the language be localized to that client?
  • nasuradinnasuradin Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I've had dungeons and bosses come up in different languages rarely, I assumed it was because whoever entered it first was using the client in that language.

    Also the reason they spam who gets the mounts is because its extra incentive to force you to hand over fist fulls of cash to buy keys for the lockboxes cuz look! so many other people can get the mount you should try too!! /sarcasm
  • pressexpose1pressexpose1 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I have no idea why they think a global server message for a common item in lockboxes is needed but what can I do? But as it has been pointed out the messages appear in the client language of the person receiving the item. It's not just German, it's often French.

    At the end of the day it does you no harm. Especially if you also speak the language. Bin ich richtig?
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  • mklein2836mklein2836 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 46
    edited May 2013
    I have also seen now where my stuff appears in a different language. Auction house bids and whatnot. Getting barraged with constant horsey messages is bad enough...getting them in languages with letters that can't possibly be a real language is just absurd. Enough with this <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> already.
  • travail01travail01 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 151 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    As an English speaking player, I should not be receiving server messages in German, nor should I be receiving auction house messages in German.

    Ever.

    The game should know that my account is an English speaking account, and translate those messages into English when they appear to me. Likewise, they should translate those messages into German for an account which has checked some sort of "I speak German!" box in the settings. The point is, the messages should appear to each individual player in their native language.

    The way it's set up now is just lazy. We have the technology to have these messages appear in any number of different languages, based on the individual settings of a person's account. The message is pre-recorded, so it's as simple as flipping a switch to force the server to select the English recording for my account, while selecting the German recording for those accounts with German speaking players. Not very difficult at all.

    And while we're on the subject, I want the option to turn the nightmare mount message off, completely. I DO NOT WANT TO KNOW ABOUT IT EVERY TIME SOMEONE RECEIVES A MOUNT. THAT IS REALLY ANNOYING.

    Yes, that needed to be in all caps, because I am shouting. :p

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  • jorealjoreal Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    mickst3r wrote: »
    So I've seen this happen quite regularly where some GM in game would keep talking in Global chat in a foreign language to someone I do not know.
    Why is he talking in non-english in an english server? Y in global? It is kind of annoying...
    Anyone else experience this?

    It's not an english server, it is a global server that supports multiple languages. Why do you care what anyone else is saying in a foreign language? You know how bigoted you sound right now? Just because someone is saying something doesn't mean it is all about you. This game isn't all about you. YOU are playing it, but that doesn't mean that everything is directed at you personally.
  • kiraliakiralia Member Posts: 383 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I hate those messages too, and actually they are offputting to me using keys. If I get lucky and find some valuable or rare item I do not WANT my name plastered everywhere.
  • jorealjoreal Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    kiralia wrote: »
    I hate those messages too, and actually they are offputting to me using keys. If I get lucky and find some valuable or rare item I do not WANT my name plastered everywhere.

    Why not...you don't want the server to celebrate your luck with you? Why are you so against people knowing who you are in a multiplayer game?
  • kiraliakiralia Member Posts: 383 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Same reason why when I was working in an american office in sales I didn't like them ringing the bell when I made big sales. I am a quiet English woman who prefers her privacy. It being multiplayer has no bearing on it.
  • wakerglasswakerglass Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 56
    edited May 2013
    i bet you guys are upset that some help lines make you press 1 for english too, huh? aww. personally, as far as mmo chat goes, no other language is more annoying than english.
  • lythanorlythanor Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Stop the SPAM!
  • travail01travail01 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 151 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    This isn't just about players speaking in other languages (which is understandable, given the limited number of global servers) but about the actual server messages, and auction house mail, we receive as players. There's no reason why I should be receiving server messages or mail in another language. That's completely lazy design.

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  • wrenaqwrenaq Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    OMG how dare they...we won the war and they come on a global server speaking their dirty German words....
    GET A GRIP....it is a global server does it really mean that much that when you see a different language you get peed off? If so you need to travel more and see the world and meet other people whom do not speak english.
  • wrenaqwrenaq Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Guter Gott manche Menschen sind so engstirnig.

    Sorry Iam a little rusty.
  • hsinroghsinrog Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    wrenaq wrote: »
    If so you need to travel more and see the world and meet other people whom do not speak english.

    You missed the point of this thread. No one is complaining about people speaking foreign languages. It is the fact when they are regionally set for English Admin messages will appear in a foreign language, such as Deutsch. Unless you are actually fluent in that language you may have no idea what the Admin message is trying to tell you, this can even happen with you are not in group and in a solo dungeon or questing.

    My experiences have all been where it switches to German for a random amount of time, though ironically enough I'm fluent in the language so it does not impair my understanding, even if it is a bit disconcerting and annoying.
  • fongadorfongador Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 264 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    joreal wrote: »
    Why not...you don't want the server to celebrate your luck with you? Why are you so against people knowing who you are in a multiplayer game?

    They're annoying and it loses its value when it tells you every five minutes that: "Bungholio has gained an inferno nightmare!"
  • wrenaqwrenaq Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Just ignore it then....maybe that GM is just being a decent person by saying the message in German also.
    Annoying? no it isn't you are making a mountain out of a molehill.
    Global server so I do not mind GMs also making the game more enjoyable for my German pals.
  • kittykaswickkittykaswick Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I have noticed items for sale that have been linked in a foreign language. I am guessing its some kind of bug. It should show up in whatever my clients language is not in the linked clients.
  • jedizalmjedizalm Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    fongador wrote: »
    They're annoying and it loses its value when it tells you every five minutes that: "Bungholio has gained an inferno nightmare!"

    Welcome to PWE gaming. Every game from PWE does this, so you learn to tune it out over time.
  • hsinroghsinrog Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    wrenaq wrote: »
    Global server so I do not mind GMs also making the game more enjoyable for my German pals.

    Again you missed the point. It is not GM messages that most people are talking about. It is [ADMIN] messages and things like automated auction house messages.
  • kittykaswickkittykaswick Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    wakerglass wrote: »
    i bet you guys are upset that some help lines make you press 1 for english too, huh? aww. personally, as far as mmo chat goes, no other language is more annoying than english.

    I knew someone just had to take it to this place. For reference i agree English is annoying, its my first language and i understand why people that don't speak it and don't want to learn it. Its a lot harder then a lot of langues out there. The structure is completely different from the majority of languages out there, not only do you have to learn the words but pretty much rework your brain for the ordering. But this post isnt about english being the only language, its about because our clients are set to english not whatever the language of the sender is. IE item links linked from a different language from english should show up in english not the linkers client language. That right there tells me its an issue on their side for sure :)
  • fongadorfongador Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 264 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    wrenaq wrote: »
    Just ignore it then....maybe that GM is just being a decent person by saying the message in German also.
    Annoying? no it isn't you are making a mountain out of a molehill.
    Global server so I do not mind GMs also making the game more enjoyable for my German pals.

    Uh yeah...it isn't a GM.

    ...and stop acting like people are ranting over it. Just because some says something is annoying doesn't mean they're ranting over the issue. Nor is everyone commenting on it saying it because different languages are being used in the automated messages as some seem inclined to keep trying to imply.
  • raaizeraaize Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    joreal wrote: »
    It's not an english server, it is a global server that supports multiple languages. Why do you care what anyone else is saying in a foreign language? You know how bigoted you sound right now? Just because someone is saying something doesn't mean it is all about you. This game isn't all about you. YOU are playing it, but that doesn't mean that everything is directed at you personally.

    How about you over-react some more, I don't think your reaction was quite as dramatic as it needed to be, lol.

    He's not being Bigoted by what he is asking, as everyone has pointed out it's an international server however I as an English speaking person want to play a game where I can understand what system messages are saying to me as I am sure that someone who might speak German, French or even Italian would like to know what the system messages are telling them.

    Someone suggested earlier on that the messages should be translated as to what locale you have installed on your client, that to me would be the ideal solution. Failing that the admin message should just be removed.
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