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redburst
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How much does Zen cost?
Like, how much Zen would I get for 1 EUR?
Like, how much Zen would I get for 1 EUR?
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Either way, 100 zen is 1$, or 350+ AD ingame.
Btw, the exchange Buy/Sell zen ingame is so stupid, in GW2 they made it right but here you can be all day buying and selling zen to get a profit...
Redburst, the prices for Zen can be checked here: https://billing.perfectworld.com/
Remember your words when everyone does it and zen price raises leading to a <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> servers economy. Currently it goes down because the only way to earn a non laughable amount of AD requires you to sell stuff to players, that and because everyone is probably selling all zen they have stocked because they see prices falling and falling so they panic, but eventually it will go up again.
Where exactly does it say the price?
When you click on buy and select a payment option, it lists the different amounts and prices.
Jnc, STO and CO use the the same system. The exchange rate will eventually gravitate toward 100:1, so ADs will continue to increase in value. I bought 15M AD during the headstart at the maximum rate of 500:1. If I exchanged them back now, I would make a good Zen profit already (but I will not, because I think 370:1 is still a rate where I would rather buy ADs than sell them).
When I bought ADs at 500:1, one million cost me 2000 Zen. If I exchanged it back right now, today, at 370:1, I would get 2700 Zen. Not bad for two weeks.
AD earning is 23k refine a day PER CHARACTER, so even if you earn 23k with a single character what makes you think people won't get 100-200k AD a day just by logging with multiple accounts/characters and simply doing the evocation or settings crafts/completing dailies?
Mind you telling me how ingame stuff will be cheaper? Let's say an unbind is 50k AD, right now that's like 150 zen, aka 1.5$. If the ratio was 100:1 a simple unbind would be 5$. If it happened to go that low, they would have to set new prices for everything or boost AD rewards (I can see the later comming anyways, because earning AD is very low imo, unless you play multiple characters or exploit it by setting crafts and doing evocation on multiple acc/chars, easy AD earning).
Current AD prices for Zen are expensive. You need a lot AD for a Zen. In a few months you will need fewer AD to get Zen, which makes Zen cheaper than now (and with it everything in the cash store, too). This is actually working better for free players than for those who buy Zen. Buying AD gets more expensive because their value increases daily.
It is precisely because of the limited AD influx (more leaving the system than entering it) that the exchange rate will keep going down. I am confident we will see 250:1 within 2-3 months. We went from 500 to 370:1 in two weeks. It will stabilize somewhere and I believe it will be closer to 100 than 500.
Even tho Zen price was probably expensive at 500:1 when it just released caused by the AD rewarded with founder packs, I don't see it going below 300 anytime, and probably will go up again until prices match properly and supply/demand gets stablished (Let's be honest, Zen supply right now is WAY higher than demand, hence why its price goes down, and this will change when half of the customers hop into another game or get bored of it, which is usually about a month).
Currently people is in panic, they think "Hey, prices are going down, so i'll sell my Zen because it will get cheaper!" "Items prices also go down, omg how am I gonna earn AD?"
The limited AD is worthless if you can bypass it by playing multiple characters. So you are not gonna earn 23k a day.
you can bypass it also by selling items in the auction house.
In my opinion, it is not the Zen supply that is high, but the AD supply that is decreasing. At first, all founders had 600k to 2M AD. That is why we saw 500:1. Removing gems, the Cat (costs 1M and is the best end game companion for every class), scrolls (at 60 you barely get any Greater ID scrolls), soon the costs for the upgrades for the companions, feats respecs for ADs, etc -- all this brings down the total sum of AD. Yes, you can get 24k per character, but honestly, this takes quite a bit of time. Most people will not do it.
But at this point this is all speculation. We can revisit this thread in 2-3 months and see how things developed by then. It is part of what makes the game's economical aspects a fun mini game.
And even tho it takes a long time to earn 23k AD on a single character, people who makes dozens of accounts/characters can probably earn 100k in a matter of minutes.
I know that, but I was talking about ways of gaining over 23k AD without even selling a single item. Obviously right now the best way to earn AD is selling overpriced stuff to people that is paying too much for items that will be somewhat worthless at some point.
This isn't quite correct because you have to consider the source of AD which is limited and not like gold you can farm endlessly.
That's the thing...you actually can, just not by playing a single character.
It's for all characters if I'm not wrong, so it's not that "expensive" if you have several characters.
They cost almost the same in WoW and Rift, and that's on top of the game and the monthly subscription fee. It's fairly standard. But if you were considering a mount, you can also look into the Guardian founder pack for better value.
They even said themselves these mounts arent for the casual player, theyre not supposed to be common. theyre for the type of person who wants it and can say yeah i have an "exclusive" mount and dont mind paying for it. who really cares, i bought the game for $60 and would never pay $30 for a different mount because i dont personally see the need.
People who say this game is p2w is like saying league of legends is pay to win. in LoL u can rotate characters every week and play every single character eventually if u like or u can shell out $$ for characters to keep and learn them and play them to the best of ur ability, then theres skins which dont do anything (which i compare to a mount cos its basically a skin - at endgame the runspeed doesnt really make much difference) people will pay for the skins to look different and some of the single character ultimate skins on LoL can be $15 then time that by 50 chars (not all chars have ultimate skins) u have $750 of skins that dont do anything, much more expensive than a mount.