Armor Penetration on CW?

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• gomok72 Member Posts: 616 Arc User

  May 2013 edited May 2013

  I did a armor pen stacking build and to be honest, I really did not notice a big difference on boss mobs.
  
  In PvP and on trash mobs though, there was a significant damage increase, On trash mobs I went from hitting for 200 to 300 with Icy ray and my criticals were significantly higher (went from 1800 to 2400 on Icy ray crits). I felt I gave up a lot of other stats pushing my armor pen but it may be worth it when people start figuring how to min max discovered gear.

  I may not be considered by most the BEST PVP Warlock on the server but, I am the most HATED amongst them.
  
  -Kymos

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• dematto Member Posts: 0 Arc User

  May 2013 edited May 2013

  I realize this isn't really the same thing, but it might be worth exploration (and apparently I cannot yet post threads to give this the full discussion that it needs).
  
  When I'm in groups I often run a Tab-Ray of Enfeeblement.
  Of note, the spell says that if you hit the same target, the debuff doubles. That's an ENORMOUS gain in dps for yourself, and the group. So I use it. Even the DoT aspect is pretty hefty and can kill some minions just on it's own.
  
  But...at least against trash mobs, I don't really notice the second enfeeble improving the damage of my Magic Missile. So I'm wondering if mobs are just running like 15-20% mitigation, and the extra Ray is wasted on them, or whether it's broken or what.
  
  Relevancy to your topic: If you wanted to gear for A.Pen, perhaps look, at least temporarily, at a cap of about 15-20%? Or run Ray and don't worry about as much A.Pen?

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• gulrakdark Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User

  May 2013 edited May 2013

  Interesting point there dematto. Trash level adds could very well be running much less armor, however on the same note, I remember reading somewhere that the 2nd ray of enfeeblement was bugged and wasn't giving double debuff but rather only a very minor increase after the first. Your observation of it working on bosses though might prove that wrong and lends to your theory of lesser armor on adds. I have no idea.

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• yummydownonthese Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User

  May 2013 edited May 2013

  Sometimes when you damage a mob there is a damage number and a number in parentheses. I'm assuming that the number in parentheses is how much damage you would've done if you had more Armor Penetration. I could be wrong, but I'm entirely unsure what else those numbers mean.

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• burninator42 Member Posts: 11 Arc User

  May 2013 edited May 2013

  dematto wrote: »

  But...at least against trash mobs, I don't really notice the second enfeeble improving the damage of my Magic Missile. So I'm wondering if mobs are just running like 15-20% mitigation, and the extra Ray is wasted on them, or whether it's broken or what.

  gulrakdark wrote: »

  I remember reading somewhere that the 2nd ray of enfeeblement was bugged and wasn't giving double debuff but rather only a very minor increase after the first. Your observation of it working on bosses though might prove that wrong and lends to your theory of lesser armor on adds. I have no idea.

  I tested TAB RoE on the target dummies which have zero armour mitigation. The first cast boosts damage by 25% and the second gives you a total of +50% damage bonus. Using gear with armour pen has zero effect on damage vs target dummies (either spell or melee).
  
  From what I can see the armour pen stat will reduce mob mitigation (if they have any) while spells like RoE simply boost damage by X%. It is possible that RoE will negate mitigation if the mob has mitigation (rendering armour pen useless in that case), or it may just be a bonus damage buff.

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