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Why Critical Over Power for Healing?
groborthir
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 32
Hello, fellow devoted clerics! I approach you with a question, maybe some of you would care to enlighten me.
Here's the thing, as far as I can gather, does not most of our healing come from Astral Shield? Its heal does not appear to crit (unless I've been astronomically unlucky after god knows how many hours of using it), so why are we supposed to stack critical over power with the prospect of dishing out as much healing as possible?
I can see three reasons for critical in terms of healing, and that's Astral Seal, Sun Burst and our feat that triggers small heals on critical hits. As for Astral Seal and Sun Burst, cool, crits are nice, but will those crits really outweigh better non-crits from stacking power, and will those crits in fact outheal Astral Shield? And as for the feat with the splash heals, are they really of much note? In most dungeon scenarios, outside of an occasional Flame Strike or some such, we aren't doing particularly ridiculously high crits, so eventhough we'd probably always pick the feat, wouldn't power over critical in the very end be a much better solution to take over critical?
Here's the thing, as far as I can gather, does not most of our healing come from Astral Shield? Its heal does not appear to crit (unless I've been astronomically unlucky after god knows how many hours of using it), so why are we supposed to stack critical over power with the prospect of dishing out as much healing as possible?
I can see three reasons for critical in terms of healing, and that's Astral Seal, Sun Burst and our feat that triggers small heals on critical hits. As for Astral Seal and Sun Burst, cool, crits are nice, but will those crits really outweigh better non-crits from stacking power, and will those crits in fact outheal Astral Shield? And as for the feat with the splash heals, are they really of much note? In most dungeon scenarios, outside of an occasional Flame Strike or some such, we aren't doing particularly ridiculously high crits, so eventhough we'd probably always pick the feat, wouldn't power over critical in the very end be a much better solution to take over critical?
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I'm certain things change at cap and once I have access to Astral Shield and feated Hallowed Ground but until then I'm trying to maintain a minimum 20% crit chance as a rule of thumb.
All those bonuses from crit plus the big damage/heal number from the actual crits outweigh the higher sustained damage/heal generated from higher power IMO. But in the end its all about what you feel more comfortable with and your playstyle. There isn't any right or wrong.
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I could be mistaken (I'm not a min-maxer, so couldn't care less about the details of this stuff) - but it's my impression based on what I'm seeing.
I only have 2200 and would be looking for one of 3000 or higher?
Thanks.
they all have dr except power
the reason why we don't stack power has a lot to do with a feat and the fact that we don't really seem to get as much from it as other classes.
i mean guardian fighters double their power if they have full guard meter with envy's build. 9k power anyone? gwf get a power buff too that's not insignificant.
i have 35% crit at 3500 crit rating because i stupidly rolled a low strength starting stat (13 i think it was, or 12). +crit from feats and ability scores does not count towards the DR. i could have 39% not grouped. i do have about 45% crit when in a group doing a dungeon though.
If you have 3500 Critical Strike rating, please share the exact Critical Strike rating and the and the "Contributes to: Critical Chance" percentage.
is your game broken? your character sheet not working?
As stated in the original post, to which you responded, I don't have 3000 or more Critical Strike rating, and am interested in the information.
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roll an orc. 18/18 str/crit
3522 crit rating - 18.4% crit
Thank you.
there's this and HoT/DoTs work differently in this game than other MMOs/games.
if the initial tick/hit of the HoT/DoT crits, every tick thereafter will crit as well.
In the current state of the game, it's all about astral shield and hallowed ground. These cannot crit so I don't really see the point of stacking crit.
My setup for epic dungeon boss is:
At will: Sacred flames and brand of the sun. (sacred flames indirect bonus to healing with feat and brand of the sun for easy divinity)
Encounter: AS, Sun Burst and Chains. (AS is OP so the other two skills are for keeping me allive/mob control. If I die, party dies)
Daily: HG and Flame Strike. (HG is obvious, flame strike is for some scenarios were I get knocked out of AS and get zerged by adds)
It is my personal believe that these powers are the best for dungeon boss fights atm. These powers are buff/control and crit won't increase their usefulness. Imho you are better of with high cha/wis. Cha for recovery and action points, wis for bonus to healing and bonus to control/control resist.
Pvp might be a different scenario, I think it's fun but in it's current state I don't take it serious.. I only play it for daily astral. I think there might be more room for critting. Astral Seal and Healing Word start to become much more usefull. Forge Masters flame is a bit hard in pvp since there's a lot of running/dieing.
Maybe someone else has more experience with it and can shed some light on that.
My 2 cents~
I've never said crit was THE best. It's just the best in my eyes.
Imho recovery>defense>power. Cha>Wis>Int. Once again, I believe the more survivability the better. Imho AS/control.
Sure I have seen people heal "more" at the end of the dungeon then me, how useful those heals were is another question. Healing people who don't need healing doesn't really bring value to the party.
(Edit: Also don't forget that Invigorated healing feat works for AS and Sun burst. Making AS/Sun burst an even stronger choice, once again crit wouldn't add anything there)
edit: Invigorated Healing is a moot point, stacking power doesn't add to it either, nor HG. AS would be a little stronger stacking power over crit, but all the rest of your spells win out with crit, IMO.
Critical Strike rating:
On Divine Glow (damaging spell that can Critical Strike), Critical Strike rating remains ahead of Power in actual percentage damage increase even at 3500 Critical Strike rating (thanks to dixa1).
I do need to test the improvement for healing spells (will use Astral Seal, since it's the most relevant), but that's for another time.
Wouldn't a Str Cleric be better for stamina regeneration for getting more dodges in in both high end PVE and PVP....?
I never played a Cha/Wis build so I have no idea how much faster and helpful that extra 14% stamina regeneration really is.
If it's not worth it for the stamina regen then str build may be worthless?
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