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losabralosabra Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited May 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
enjoyed the game time to move on at level 38 I can already tell its pretty much the same the rest of the way. Couldn't imagine hitting level cap and fighting same stuff in the same way over and over so I am getting out before I spend to much money. See you all at the next big thing.
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  • hycinthushycinthus Member Posts: 158 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    Can I have your stuff?
  • vampiregoatvampiregoat Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    LMAO that is ALL MMO's go kill 10000 monsters now go kill 20000 more then do this..
  • coconukecoconuke Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Unfortunately, I am leaving as well.

    This game intrigued me at first and I even spent $60 Founder's + $20 for Keys for this game. The game is gorgeous especially with texture settings maxed at 200%. What really turned me off was how deep of a cash grab this game was. At first I thought it only affected cosmetics and I was fine with that. However, as the levels passed, I realized how even fundamental gameplay was affected: respec tokens cost a whopping $10 (1000 zen minimum purchase) && at level 60 the best enchantments are ONLY obtainable via real-life money.

    In an MMO, experimentation, especially in a beta, is an imperative aspect of gameplay. Charging players any money, let alone $6-$10, to experiment with their character in an OPEN BETA game, is rather counter-intuitive and exemplifies corporate greed.
  • akikisaragiakikisaragi Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    It's not a cash grab, it's called f2p. If you're too stingy well can't help you there.
  • coconukecoconuke Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    It's not a cash grab, it's called f2p. If you're too stingy well can't help you there.

    I would agree with you there, but paying $10 for respec'ing is unacceptable. Respeccing is fundamental to MMO gameplay, experimenting with classes is the whole point of an OPEN BETA. But the scam here is that if you experiment with classes, well you gotta PAY!

    That is pay-to-play.
  • lymprechtlymprecht Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 44
    edited May 2013
    It's not a cash grab, it's called f2p. If you're too stingy well can't help you there.

    Yeah, I wouldn't use cash grab. Like, you wouldn't call a casino a cash grab.
  • nemesis788450nemesis788450 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    dont let the door hit you on the way out

    really beyond me how anyone would think anyone would give a **** about such posts...what i can tell you is that youre missing some of the best areas yet...really cool and beautiful made
  • nemesis788450nemesis788450 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    lymprecht wrote: »
    Yeah, I wouldn't use cash grab. Like, you wouldn't call a casino a cash grab.

    its a good example actually, its about the same level of stupidity as going into a casino to play and complain that you have to play with real money...
  • cocksworthcocksworth Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    It's not a cash grab, it's called f2p. If you're too stingy well can't help you there.

    You're pretty much the reason I disregard all posts by a HotN now. Nothing but partisan bull**** and calling everyone else poor or crying "open beta" at every legitimate complaint. Blue tags = shills at this point.

    Sorry to all non d-bag HotNs.
  • lymprechtlymprecht Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 44
    edited May 2013
    its a good example actually, its about the same level of stupidity as going into a casino to play and complain that you have to play with real money...

    Word, which is why It's fair to criticize the pay model in much the same way one would criticize a casino (enchanted keys, come on). But complaining about a cash shop period is beyond pointless. They're the same people who complain about subscription fees.
  • lokaidraxmartislokaidraxmartis Member Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    LMAO that is ALL MMO's go kill 10000 monsters now go kill 20000 more then do this..

    not what he means... every boss fight in this game is same routine... tank boss, burn adds as they tele in... honestly if thats all end game is...i'd get bored to.

    most mmo's try to have every boss fight be mechanically unique in some way, not copy and paste fights.
  • nemesis788450nemesis788450 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    well some freeloaders start pissing me off with their whining - my girlfriend didnt spent a dime on the game and played through it to 60 and really enjoyed it! Now shes thinking about buying some mounts and stuff - i for myself payed 60 bucks which is basically the box price...either way we both played for way less money than a subscribtion model game . We only pay for what we want, when we want - when i get bored and decide to take a break, i dont have to pay a dime until i get back whereas with a subscribtion i have to pay wheter i consume or not. Some people are ok with paying 200 bucks a year on a subscription model but are not okay with paying maybe half of that on fluff items a year - thats really beyond me...
  • nemesis788450nemesis788450 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    not what he means... every boss fight in this game is same routine... tank boss, burn adds as they tele in... honestly if thats all end game is...i'd get bored to.

    most mmo's try to have every boss fight be mechanically unique in some way, not copy and paste fights.[/QUOTE

    tell me boss fights that are not more or less the same? i think some of the later boss fights get quiet challenging - for example the wolf den or mad dragon boss...these were the hardest by far now
  • klaw10klaw10 Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I'd like to congratulate the devs on the care and attention they paid to the high level maps and populations. Especially Icespire and Mt Hotenow.
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  • xxviimbxxviimb Member Posts: 94 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    sorry to see you go, but you are missing some decent terrain, other then that though.....most all mmos are grinds, so I am not sure you would be happy anywhere.
    "You have a wife and kids? If so, what would happen, if we called you in at 1am, everytime something went wrong!
    Be respectful, remember, you PLAY the game at your convenience, they WORK at no ones."
  • lymprechtlymprecht Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 44
    edited May 2013
    well some freeloaders start pissing me off with their whining - my girlfriend didnt spent a dime on the game and played through it to 60 and really enjoyed it! Now shes thinking about buying some mounts and stuff - i for myself payed 60 bucks which is basically the box price...either way we both played for way less money than a subscribtion model game . We only pay for what we want, when we want - when i get bored and decide to take a break, i dont have to pay a dime until i get back whereas with a subscribtion i have to pay wheter i consume or not. Some people are ok with paying 200 bucks a year on a subscription model but are not okay with paying maybe half of that on fluff items a year - thats really beyond me...

    I can play the game just fine without paying a dime, though I'll probably have to buy a respec at 60 (and end up buying more points than I need, which will encourage me to buy more so I get my money's worth from the first left over points). My friend has already paid over $100 on enchanted keys because he's a moron, but then they know those are the people who are going to spend hundreds on enchanted keys.

    But yes, responsible people with a bit of self control can play this game for free, and that's great. It's a terrific game. But not above criticism for icky cash shop practices that we shouldn't be championing.
  • rapticorrapticor Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,078 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    coconuke wrote: »
    I would agree with you there, but paying $10 for respec'ing is unacceptable. Respeccing is fundamental to MMO gameplay, experimenting with classes is the whole point of an OPEN BETA. But the scam here is that if you experiment with classes, well you gotta PAY!

    That is pay-to-play.

    Talk about inflation. These seem to go up everytime someone complains about it. Respec tokens aren't $10.

    I do agree though in beta they should give a token a week or something. It's not pay to play though since if you spec properly the first time it costs you nothing.
  • nemesis788450nemesis788450 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    lymprecht wrote: »
    I can play the game just fine without paying a dime, though I'll probably have to buy a respec at 60 (and end up buying more points than I need, which will encourage me to buy more so I get my money's worth from the first left over points). My friend has already paid over $100 on enchanted keys because he's a moron, but then they know those are the people who are going to spend hundreds on enchanted keys.

    But yes, responsible people with a bit of self control can play this game for free, and that's great. It's a terrific game. But not above criticism for icky cash shop practices that we shouldn't be championing.

    sure, i would also very much prefer some changes, also lower prices on the cash shop - if a mount would cost 10 bucks, i'd allready bought 3 of em...if only to support the game. but lets face it, this game does not have subscribtion, it does not have box sales, a lot of people will really use the option to play completly free - so you have to get money somehow from those that are willing to pay for it..otherwise the game will shut down in a few months...
  • lymprechtlymprecht Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 44
    edited May 2013
    sure, i would also very much prefer some changes, also lower prices on the cash shop - if a mount would cost 10 bucks, i'd allready bought 3 of em...if only to support the game. but lets face it, this game does not have subscribtion, it does not have box sales, a lot of people will really use the option to play completly free - so you have to get money somehow from those that are willing to pay for it..otherwise the game will shut down in a few months...

    Hard to say. If prices are cheaper, then more people spend money, so they get less money from each individual but money from more individuals combined. But really, that wasn't my point but more about the scummy nature of cash shops. It prey's on the stupid. Which, granted you can say they deserve it. I still find it scummy though.
  • lymprechtlymprecht Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 44
    edited May 2013
    rapticor wrote: »
    Talk about inflation. These seem to go up everytime someone complains about it. Respec tokens aren't $10.

    I do agree though in beta they should give a token a week or something. It's not pay to play though since if you spec properly the first time it costs you nothing.


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  • cloudbreezecloudbreeze Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I think the game is all right. To me it seems like a single player RPG with co-op.

    I guess the thing that killed it for me was the identify scrolls. I'm in the upper 30's and I'm not finding enough of them to keep my bags from filling up with possible upgrades. I've only been identifying my class items but I still can't find enough. I could spend AD to buy them but that seems like a waste of resources.

    I also don't like putting points into powers I'm never going to use. There needs to be enough UI spots to equip all of the powers you buy to get further down the tree. No use buying powers if they are just going to sit in the tree and never be equipped.

    I'll probably try it again after the beta has ended. I'd definitely be more willing to do the pay once then play forever model without a sub. Just have a cash shop for cosmetics for the people that want to spend more to look pretty.
  • kingbullgodkingbullgod Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 254 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    It's an MMO what did u expect???
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  • ordainedoneordainedone Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    No, it's a Cash Grab. I swear you people have never played a PWE game. They have perfected Cash Grabs games. Everyone I know has already quit and like all other PWE games. Give it a month or two and enjoy the empty merged servers.
  • rapticorrapticor Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,078 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    The servers were always planned to be merged into one. But yeah come back in 2 months I doubt you'll find the servers empty.
  • awdeohawdeoh Member Posts: 53
    edited May 2013
    ^ Same doom and gloom diatribe seen and heard in a dozen other recent games that went from P2P to F2P, or started F2P immediately.

    What actually happens is that the minority of the community, the ones who just love to complain, get bored and move on to the next target game to complain about.

    What remains is generally a good community of players.
  • steppenkatsteppenkat Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    not what he means... every boss fight in this game is same routine... tank boss, burn adds as they tele in... honestly if thats all end game is...i'd get bored to.

    most mmo's try to have every boss fight be mechanically unique in some way, not copy and paste fights.

    Excuse me, but some bosses past level 40 are much tougher and you need to fight them in a non-faceroll way... He just experienced half the game and he's judging it completely for that. So he is incorrect in his claims.

    Anyway I'm a firm believer that an MMO only starts at max level and from what I've heard, epic dungeons here are very challenging.
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