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Thaumaturgy or renegade endgame wizard build?

xulynxulyn Member Posts: 21 Arc User
edited May 2013 in The Library
wich is better Thaumaturgy or renegade mainly for pve ofc litle pvp allso :) but mainly for pve damage.
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  • qryticalqrytical Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I'm Thaumaturge spec at 60 because:
    • AoE 15% mitigation debuff with COI.
    • Snap Freeze means 20% increased damage on Chill Strike/Ice Knife
    • Far Spell gives you some extra range on MM and CS.
    • Tempest Magic grants 10% more damage to targets below 30% (currently bugged with Tieflings).
    • Elemental Empowerment adds 30% weapon damage to cold attack and a 10% defense debuff to Arcane attacks.
    • Transcended Master, along with Snap Freeze, turns Icy Rays into a single-target power house in PvP.


    I looked at Renegade and was not impressed outside of Reaper's Touch, which you can get as Thaumaturge spec.
    • Nightmare Wizardry only adds like 1% extra damage overall 0.30 (30% crit chance) x .20 (20% proc) x 0.1 (~10% combat advantage bonus) = ~1% extra damage for a 5 point investment.
    • Phantasmal Destruction, 15% extra crit damage with Combat Advantage up doesn't add a whole lot of extra damage.
    • Masterful Arcane is about the only Feat I wish I could have from the Renegade tree just because RoE is awesomesauce.
    • Chaos Magic procs are entirely too unreliable, if it were just the mitigation debuff like CoI in Thaumaturge I'd be all over it.
  • manukostamanukosta Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I'm going renegade with focus on crit and ice abilities (since there is a feat that, with chilling presence, you get +5% chance on crits with ice spells) - so yeah, I also have all the crit feats. But I'm not sure if it's the most effective, definitely a strategy though.

    That is why I also use chilling cloud (ice at will w/aoe on 3rd hit) and have the energy recovery feat - but now I'm reconsidering since 25% chance to heal on the 3rd hit is a little weak, and usually requires a lot of adds to work well. They should boost this feat.

    I would really like to have some other option to heal myself though, at least in the level 58 dungeon I felt like I needed more healing (and there was no cleric in the group).
  • xulynxulyn Member Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?196742-Lvl60-8-5k-Gearscore-CW-s-views-on-best-DPS-build-for-Dungeons

    http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?192572-The-Renegade-Control-Wizard-Stats-Feats-and-Powers-(oh-my!)


    atm between those 2 builds share ur opinions :)
  • skydiversrskydiversr Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    renegate better
  • kidbskidbs Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 294
    edited May 2013
    There are so many buggy traits in both trees it doesn't really matter at this point.
  • runicfirunicfi Member Posts: 269 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    If you want damage, you want Thaumaturgy.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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