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tokki31
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 1 Arc User
What i noticed not to long after hitting level 60 is that in-game services (Respecing talents,unenchanting,etc..) are way expensive. Everyone wants to repec the talents every now and then but it looks like it cost an arm and leg just to do so. I know some people dont like there enchants they have on items but just to change it it cost you like 200k AD. I dont know about anyone else or if im just not catching on how to get these millions of AD but i get like 24k AD max for dailys. Because u can only refine that many rough AD a Day. It looks like the only other solid source of AD is Trade Broker. Which im sorry to say sucks because everythings value goes down by probaly 200k AD a day because of people undercutting ppl by 50k and they keep reposting the item to undercut ppl. Not to mention u cant even sell items for AD only for Gold. Not to mention gold is kind of useless(Golds only really for Pots and Medkits)not saying pots and medkits are useless. But come on Cryptic Prices are outrageous. Since AD is pretty much the main source of money, make some other way for ppl to obtain Astral Diamonds. Love the game but it seems Cryptic is money hungry. Simply because the only other way to make AD is selling Zen. This is just my opinion but COME ON LOWER PRICES!!!
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You forgot to note that praying hourly also generates astral diamonds but as far as it goes, Astral Diamonds aren't meant to be easily obtainable as they are meant to be an alternative means to get things you'd otherwise have to pay for. If they were too easy to get nobody would buy pay for things since they'd just get the AD things instead. The only reason to get pay for things would then be vanity only and it's unlikely an MMO could fund itself entirely off of vanity gear alone unfortunately.
That would be true if it weren't for what the OP mentioned - a number of "basic services" run on AD as well. Removing enchantments & companion runes, appearance switching your armor (I've heard that's around 60k a pop at 60. Yay?), feat respec, etc. Yes, some of those are luxuries, but the basic charges for them still seem somewhat high. (I know I'd certainly be doing appearance changes at a pretty high rate, if they wouldn't bankrupt me inside a day or two.)
Great games but their price structure is firmly in the "charge a very small portion of the players who can afford it so the vast majority can play for free" camp. Instead of reducing the prices to a more acceptable level and stopping people from buying everything in game.
In other words...charge a more reasonable amount for stuff (maybe $5 for a companion) and make that companion untradeable (maybe account bound) so that people had to pay to get it...but could afford to because it wasn't thirty freaking dollars.
As it stands, a few people with lots of money are supporting the game...then reselling zen items to the rabid players with more diamonds (and time to farm them) than sense. Kinda screws those of us with lives and middle of the road jobs who WANT to buy the cool stuff but can neither afford the ridiculous zen prices NOR the days of boring farming to get the items in game.
30 bucks for a mount is stupid. I'm not even going to type out all the reasons why this game and its pricing is set way to high. Some people will pay it though. Just look at all those people who dropped 200 dollars on this FotM mmo. A vast majority of which will be on to the next one when it drops.
To be fair, I had a hard time following all the things the OP was saying for first note in my reply which is that his/her post really needed paragraphs.
Yes, some basic services run on AD however I don't know if I'd say those prices are insane. 60K Astral Diamonds can be achieved in 2~3 days or a single idol can net 40K from a nightmare box which was a part of my point. I really don't think at 60 you're going to be switch armor appearance every day either or moving enchantments around that often since once you got most of the best stuff you're only really going to change when there is something better available to you... Overall no, I don't actually consider those services to be that excessive in price.
WTB Big-Giant Robot Camels, tbh...
Before anyone says it is beta and is bound to have issues, well if that's the case then why do I have to pay money/AD to try to test these things. Especially on my CW atm, alot of things on my CW just don't work at all like they should/advertise, and it is quite obvious. Even beyond testing, with these issues, you can tough it out and hope they finally fix them, and be a hinderance to your group having wasted feats/etc until then. Or you can pay and respec, then if/when they fix the issues, have to pay them again to respec back to what should worked in the first place.
Basically I think they should allow FREE respecs til the trees get sorted out and not so buggy/glitchy. Sucks to respec into something thinking it might be better just to find out it don't work at all, being stuck with it, or having to pay again to change it again. It's like getting a steak in a restaurant, ordering it well done, but waiter brings it out rare, and you either have to eat the bloody steak or pay for a second one, hoping they can get it right then.
Typically I wouldn't have any issues with the cost of respecing as long as you knew what you were getting and that it was going to work, they do have to make money somehow anyways. My issue is the fact that it costs money/AD to in the current state of the trees. Everyone wants their spec to be good and the best for their playstyle/preference, problem is what you might want might not even work and be wasted points. There's alot of powers/feats that just aren't working with each other as advertised, as they should, or in some cases just not working at all. As well as obviously there's 0 way to test it out beforehand, once you drop the point into it, if it don't work, well too bad. Either stuck with it or gotta respec again.
The biggest thing is that the Fashion portion of the cash shop isn't robust enough to be able to tell one way or the other, and that's the area I'd be most likely to spend money on. I've bought a few skins in LoL, for example, at about $5 apiece or $10 for a really nice skin. I feel that's a fairly reasonable amount to pay for the ability to customize your character to separate them from the crowd. Right now, though, there's not much aside from dyes and, what, three outfits? I'll make a judgement when they have more to offer in that regard.
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