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leetlazzt
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Seriously Cryptic,
Why is all the gear BoE? The amount of loot stealing going on is absurd.
Is this just another scheme to make money?
Make everything BoE so people can post the items on AH so people can convert zen to AD and buy the items?
This seriously need to be addressed. Whoever thought this was a good idea needs to be fired.
Anyone else with me on this?
Why is all the gear BoE? The amount of loot stealing going on is absurd.
Is this just another scheme to make money?
Make everything BoE so people can post the items on AH so people can convert zen to AD and buy the items?
This seriously need to be addressed. Whoever thought this was a good idea needs to be fired.
Anyone else with me on this?
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[Edit]: Ah. “Binding on Equip”. (Thank you Google. You make the human species smarter.)
So if you want that awesome gear thats going to make you awesomesauce so you can pwn noobs fo dayz... Then you're going to have to fight others for it! Because they know once you wear it, they have no chance of buying or selling it in the future.
Welcome to Neverwinter!
Also "loot stealing" has always been a issue with pugs in any MMO the only way to get safe loot distribution is to run with friends so nothing has changed really.
I've kept asking why the loot system is the way it is and this is the first sensible answer I've seen.
Thanks.
I care alot about how reallife money (aka Zen and defacto Astral Diamonds) disrupts a game. But so far, Neverwinter doesnt seem to have a problem. All of the magic items have level prerequisites. As far as I can tell from comparing Auction Hall searches, the rare items seem roughly comparable to the common items. Of course, slightly better, nothing to really jeopardize the gaming experience.
Surprisingly, because of the level prereqs, I dont see a problem with reallife-money payers getting some cool items. Eventually, these items appear on the auction block, and are attainable via Astral Diamonds. The ADs are attainable ... at the appropriately high levels.
Nope, item based economies are a wonderous idea and harkens back to old school MMO techonoly before the advent of the idiotic and "elitist" WoW mentality of Bind on Pickup. I love this idea and if they were to ever remove it, I'd most likely quit.
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Id much rather run dungeons and know each run will earn me a fair share of something valuable. That can be used to actually buy something id really want. Rather then to do run, after run, after run, in the hope of getting the random number gods to bless me with a drop, with the stats I want.
Ill take a fixed goal, I can measure progress toward, anytime over complete randomness. And random drops are just that.
So you people are ok with people stealing loot from other players who could actually use said loot to sell it?
What type of community is this.
How is it stealing if everyone is rolling equally for everything? How is it better to be random?
Ive been on runs where not one single thing for my class dropped that night. Yet other classes made bank. If its bad with only 5, what happens when there are 7 or 8 classes. The odds, start to decline quickly.
Isnt it simply more fair for everyone to come out of a run with something, anything. Rather then passing on drop after drop, simply because the RNG wasn't on your side that night.
1) Deal with it and stop whining.
2) Create your own parties with people you know and can trust.
3) Stop playing the game.
It's pretty simple, honestly.
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Binding-On-Equip seems great. Right now, I am just dipping my toes, and I am happy to play for free to experiment and explore. At the same time, I do want the business and the creative people in employment to receive money and a reasonable life. I am happy if I find something valuable that a paying customer can benefit from. I get ingame money to enjoy the game further, and the pay customer gets something cool, worth paying for.
In fact, the B-O-E is perfect. I personally like the *story* explanation that magic binds to a specific person, symbiosis, as the other forumer pointed out (who is on a previous page, so I cant doublecheck the name).
Also, there are a number of times when I found a valuable item, and I thought, Should I use this for myself or sell it at auction? This decision is tense but interesting.
The only thing about binding-on-equip that bothers me is, it is problematic when *consumable* resources are binding. Having one set of healing potions that bind and another that dont just kills valuable space in the bag slots. All consumables should be binding (or all should be nonbinding). But for serious equipment, I am cool with it binding on equip.
I might even go so far to say: All equipment can be Binding-On-Equip - except for items purchased by Zen reallife-money. The money payers can enjoy the use of the equipment, and then auction it while after they level and move on to a higher level item. Meanwhile, the free players have to choose between use and auction, and the payer players will non-binding items that are more valuable than binding because of their resale value.
None of this seems to disrupt gaming balance. Not by much anyway.
If this is how the devs want it, they should just remove the option of greed/need, and have everyone auto-random roll. That seems dumb to me, but at least it would be fair. Its either that or the entire playerbase just learns to "need" on everything.
I just don't see why so many details of this game are re-inventing the wheel... Say what you want about WoW, they spent years figuring out how to deal with loot systems and they worked... Why would a new game come out that brings us back to the EQ days of griefing people?
Please. Someone spell out for me what the problem is. Who is stealing from who?
Id love to see that. I think a lot of the anger here isn't the fact that people are winning items. But that others can see what people are winning. Most of the posts are of the nature of "You got that?! YOU DI#K!"
If the game simply awarded loot, to everyone, evenly and privately. You'll see nearly all the anger and jealously evaporate.
Now that's me in my 20's, what is there to do at 60 other than pvp, and run dungeons? So what's the problem. You don't get the item you want every time... don't tell me you're not gonna run that dungeon again?
So, for those of you that will only run the endgame dungeons once and miss out, I on behalf of every mmo player out there apologize. For those of you who are going to darn well run that dungeon again and again.
Shut the **** up and grow a pair you puissant little babies.
Once again fail to see how you people think it's ok for a CW to roll need on a GF chest that said GF needs just so he can go sell it on the AH.
I do think the default looting should be round robin, for qued quests.
any premade groups that do a quest would use the loot ssystem that the leader has set for group, but when it's a group that was not premade and joined without selecting a loot system, it should default to round robin (that way all members auto-roll loot equaly, instead of the need/greed. (I see how need/greed may be helpfull in a private group, but I also think in private grouping, that free for all is best)