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Lair of the Mad Dragon - Opinions? (And a tip?)
thetacoofdoom
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 21 Arc User
So, I just completed the Lair of the Mad Dragon at level 33 with 4 other random people I got paired with. That final boss fight was intense... very, very intense. The amount of spawns and adds plus the dragon's crazy damage AOEs make the fight very hard. I'd just like to know what you guys think of this dungeon. I'm not a huge MMO player, played GW2 up to level 15, played WoW to 65 and now NW to level 33 since the Hero of the North early access started and this was by far the hardest boss I've ever fought.
I imagine some of you are laughing at me and you probably beat him with no issues, but I'm no pro and that was quite the challenge. Anyways, how do you feel about that boss battle? Too hard? Too many mob spawns? I felt that the reward for spending so many resources, potions and time on that boss was unsatisfying.
PS: Quick tip (not sure if this is obvious or not, but whatever), we won on our fourth try with a simple technique, the DPS stood next to the cleric (in our case, a rogue, gwf, and me (rogue)) and kept the adds off of him while our tank took focused the dragon. It took a bit longer, but we finished him off with only one casualty (because he/she crashed actually). Good luck.
I imagine some of you are laughing at me and you probably beat him with no issues, but I'm no pro and that was quite the challenge. Anyways, how do you feel about that boss battle? Too hard? Too many mob spawns? I felt that the reward for spending so many resources, potions and time on that boss was unsatisfying.
PS: Quick tip (not sure if this is obvious or not, but whatever), we won on our fourth try with a simple technique, the DPS stood next to the cleric (in our case, a rogue, gwf, and me (rogue)) and kept the adds off of him while our tank took focused the dragon. It took a bit longer, but we finished him off with only one casualty (because he/she crashed actually). Good luck.
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the only sad part of your post is what you added in postscript - the fact it took 3 wipes for the dps to realize they had to keep the adds off their single healer, and that the tank should be focus tanking the big boss. this is holy-trinity based mmorpg 101.
I know. As I said, I'm not a huge MMORPG player so my experience with dungeons and 5 man bosses is minimal.
On our first try I was the only one attempting to protect the cleric but I was yelled at for not damaging the boss, so I left the cleric and went to smash the dragon. Our whole team died when the dragon was still at 80 percent HP.
Second try - we all kind of did our own thing, everybody apart from the rogue and I (also a rogue) died at 75 percent dragon HP but we managed to two-man him to 30 percent HP. Don't ask me how... it was crazy and lucky.
Third try - we started getting organized and we got to 50 percent before the other three died and the rogue and I two manned to 25 percent.
Fourth - We protected cleric and let tank do the damage, we won.
Fights like this and others, where mobs don't stop spawning or boss has incredibly high health and just spams aoe. The same thing over and over, its not fun, its not hard, like someone else said, its frustrating.
as i tank i just stayed on boss and our other guys killed adds asap. i used 7 times greater stone to help out our healer healing. so they didnt spent time to heal me. kill all adds from eayist one to hardest one.
OPTION 1:
Tanks stays on boss, every one group together and pull adds towards you and kill them. There is on folly in this because an elite will spawn and go and smack your squishies whom are trying to protect the cleric. This method most of the time works as long as you kill the adds quickly.
OPTION 2:
Trickster tanks the dragon. All moves and attacks can be mitigated through stealth and such. The GF picks up the adds as they spawn and every one takes them down. Rotate onto the boss when no Magus are up. Prioritize Mangus as they are hardest to pull to location, preferable everyone moves to one when they spawn. Taking all adds with them.
The advantage to option two is you have constant damage by the trickster whom takes little damage, and as long as your tank can try and have what little "taunting" he can do and the DPS takes adds then boss, adds then boss, as a rotation, your golden.
This is actually a tactic that exists in MMOs since the begining of time (well since the 00s but nm).I sure hope the game has more to offer in terms of group tactics than "dps clearing trash while healer healing tank" but I guess that will be the case at level cap.
At the end though we had only lost the previous times due to Comcast being derps to group mates. The fight is quite fun the adds can be a little excessive but all in all I had a blast. Be thankful it's not like Tera were bosses 1 shot you for not getting out of the aoes fast enough. :P
And let it be known that stealthy dps classes have been known to be the tanks of choice in other games too. Like Aion! Fighting the boss Tahabata an Assassin tank was need so you can aviod certain 1 shot moves that a real tank most likely couldn't live through.
But in this game it would be better on this boss to have the tank round up all the adds so we can all smash em with aoes.
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Only this boss & the werewolf female boss I think in the zone after this are slightly on the difficult side. It's about avoiding the red circles & killing the adds. The bosses I've faced after those two seem to be tuned better. Having said that, I hope they don't change these bosses, they are fun & when you do kill them, you feel much more satisfied than if you killed a simple boss.