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Bag of Gems need help

k4131k4131 Member Posts: 18 Arc User
edited May 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
Do i really only get this item from booster packs at random ? if thats the case i hope this game gets some things looked at. I shouldnt have to spend real cash just to get an item that might have an item i need to craft. This is also at low level.
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  • dramdrumdramdrum Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 43
    edited April 2013
    You don't "need" to buy the bag of gems to craft.
    The component you need to craft drops from those arcana/thievery/dungeoneering etc nodes as all crafting components do.
    They are moderately rare drops. But they are there.
    The "Bag of Gems" exists so that those who want to spend Zen to skip the grind are able to do so. Conveniently, converting the bag of gems to a rare component also grants a big chunk of XP, bigger than anything else you could craft.
    Pay to Win? Pay to Speed it up? Convienience item? Kind of a gray area as some people would argue that since you can get all the components in game without paying its fair.
  • faine4444faine4444 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    dramdrum wrote: »
    You don't "need" to buy the bag of gems to craft.
    The component you need to craft drops from those arcana/thievery/dungeoneering etc nodes as all crafting components do.
    They are moderately rare drops. But they are there.
    The "Bag of Gems" exists so that those who want to spend Zen to skip the grind are able to do so. Conveniently, converting the bag of gems to a rare component also grants a big chunk of XP, bigger than anything else you could craft.
    Pay to Win? Pay to Speed it up? Convienience item? Kind of a gray area as some people would argue that since you can get all the components in game without paying its fair.

    You misunderstand...you actually need an item called "Bag of gems" to craft some items. These do not drop in game. The original poster is correct.
  • astaziaastazia Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 51
    edited May 2013
    faine4444 wrote: »
    You misunderstand...you actually need an item called "Bag of gems" to craft some items.

    No you don't. As the person you quoted was saying, the recipes the bag of gems are used in are convenience recipes. You can get the same items through other recipes and as random loot from resource nodes and mobs. Basically a bag of gems is a bonus item found in the packs that converts to extra exp and resources, it's not really a "crafting" recipe.
  • cou1968cou1968 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 5
    edited May 2013
    astazia wrote: »
    No you don't. As the person you quoted was saying, the recipes the bag of gems are used in are convenience recipes. You can get the same items through other recipes and as random loot from resource nodes and mobs. Basically a bag of gems is a bonus item found in the packs that converts to extra exp and resources, it's not really a "crafting" recipe.

    ok, this is all confusing now. The tool tip ingame says that "bag of gems" is found in booster packs....where is your information coming from and why isn't that in the tool tip?
  • klaw10klaw10 Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I found a bag of gems in a skill box in bw2. They should start to appear on the ah soon.
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  • ladyshaie1ladyshaie1 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 109 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    OP is correct, there is at least one recipe in tailoring which calls for "Bag of Gems" as an ingredient. It does NOT say "Open the bag of gems to complete this recipe", it ASKS for a Weaver + Bag of Gems & when it is complete, the reward is 20 Wool Scraps, 1 Residum & 50 xp. The other recipe that I have so far calls for a Weaver + Bag of Gems & grants 8 Wool Cloth bolts, 2 Residum & 50 xp. The recipes are called, "Wool Scraps Trading" and "Wool Cloth Trading" and are available at level 3. If I attempt to craft either of those recipes, I am told that I am missing a component, namely "Bag of Gems". Now, it's possible that the rewards are gained from the weaver opening the bag of gems, but it has to be used in it's pristine state in the recipe.

    I understand what Aztazia & Drumdrum are saying though; that the items GAINED by using the recipe are able to be found in the world & they are correct. It seems as though the Bag of Gems is just a speedier way to gain what you can gain yourself either by using the kits or using your own recipes to create the items. So the Bag of Gems is NOT a necessary crafting component, but if you have one then you get some good rewards when you use it.

    Hopefully that helps lessen your confusion a little bit.
  • dufrensedufrense Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Hi

    Some of the mailsmithing recepies also demand "bag of gems". Not that I care much, I will use other recepies to level up.

    /Duf
    All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
  • ladyshaie1ladyshaie1 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 109 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    I figured all the professions (except leadership, but then again who knows?) would have similar recipes to the tailoring one, but right now I'm just leveling tailoring. Gotta keep my CW in pants, y'know! :D
  • mrvisa1000mrvisa1000 Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Hi all. Can anyone tell me if the bag of gems Bag_of_Gems_Icon.jpg and the bag of jewels are items that you can only use once?
    I mean when you use them one time you need to get another or you can use 1 bag of gems/jewels forever? Thank you.
  • kiralynkiralyn Member Posts: 1,440 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    ladyshaie1 wrote: »
    I understand what Aztazia & Drumdrum are saying though; that the items GAINED by using the recipe are able to be found in the world & they are correct. It seems as though the Bag of Gems is just a speedier way to gain what you can gain yourself either by using the kits or using your own recipes to create the items.

    Well, it's actually even better than that - the items granted by the bag of gems (20 wool, 20 iron, 20 hides, etc) are all able to be gathered via crafting, but only 2 at a time. The bag of gems is purely just a speed-up. It's a bonus if you happen to get one in a box, that's it. (And the residuum, you can get 10+ of them every five days from Celestial coins, so that's not a "omg, can't get it" thing either.)

    edit: seriously, there is nothing "rare" or unobtainable about the Bag Of Gems recipes.

    Example, from Mailsmithing:

    Gather Iron Ore - Prospector - Gains 2 Iron Ore in 10 minutes
    Iron Ore Trading - Prospector + Bag of Gems - Gains 20 Iron Ore + 1 Residuum in 10 seconds

    Residuum isn't rare, and the Iron Ore is the exact same thing you can get from the basic "Gather" task. It's just faster. Ditto for all the other Bag of Gems "Trading" tasks - they're basic material recipes, just faster.
  • kimmurieloblodrakimmurieloblodra Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    the sheer _________in this thread is hilarious.

    +1 to most of you posters for starting my day off right!

    Can't believe how many of you aren't able to grasp such a simple concept... WHERE MY BAG OF GEMZ? ?? !?!? THIS GAME IS BORKED!!!111!!!
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