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luminis88
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 3 Arc User
Hello everyone,
this'll be my first post and I'll start off with a question: What's the distribution between classes like in Neverwinter? I didn't get around to play the game yet, so I'll ask before creating a character.
Going by what I know from MMOPRGs I've played previously, I'd assume that 90% of players will pick a DPS class, 7% of players a healer of sorts and 3% will be tanks. Now, given that I'm someone who enjoys tanking quite a bit, this is just right. Grouping's almost instant for tanks and most people will think twice about being unfriendly towards the one guy the group needs but who doesn't need the group.
So, is Neverwinter like that, too, or is it different here (which would be quite surprising to me)?
this'll be my first post and I'll start off with a question: What's the distribution between classes like in Neverwinter? I didn't get around to play the game yet, so I'll ask before creating a character.
Going by what I know from MMOPRGs I've played previously, I'd assume that 90% of players will pick a DPS class, 7% of players a healer of sorts and 3% will be tanks. Now, given that I'm someone who enjoys tanking quite a bit, this is just right. Grouping's almost instant for tanks and most people will think twice about being unfriendly towards the one guy the group needs but who doesn't need the group.
So, is Neverwinter like that, too, or is it different here (which would be quite surprising to me)?
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As of now the classes I'd easily say will be at top will be Trickster Rogues without any doubt. I'd be so bold that they are probably a good deal ahead as well just due to their play style and ease to play. Control Wizard probably would be a relatively close 2nd. GWF is probably up there, but I'm going to assume a lot will probably quit the class since starting off, it is very underwhelming to the point of being quite terrible early on compared to most classes so I'm sure a lot will quite the class before they get to far into the levels when it starts to get hood. I honestly think I've seen less Devout clerics then guardian fighters personally, though I'd say either would probably be on the lower end of the spectrum.
Cleric level 5X (Dragon) - Holy goblin so much easier!
Anyway, good luck on whatever you roll
TR
GWF
CW
DC
GF
My opinion on it:
- Low levels are filled with every roll (tests, rerolls etc)
- Seasoned MMO players saw a healer who can be tank (without being a Paladin) and thought "Omg this is gonna be so OP on endgame pvp"
As for now I'm playing as CW (my friend took the GD and GWF and I'm not the rogue or cleric type). It looks funny but Frost/Arcane ain't my thing either (though I like the lore of being a knowledge hunter). Will wait for other classes to spot up and my main will be chosen not because of role but because of the feeling I get while playing it (I'm a former Vanilla-WoW Paladin who rolled each possible role in the game for the sake of playing as I liked xD)
i have seen dungeons with 2 TR and 2 CW , so playing DPS is playing DPS no matter what class , the most i have wait 10 min for dungeons , so isnt that bad :P
But healers are less important because everyone should be carrying a huge stack of potions, and the clerics can't just blindly spamheal they way they do in other games (e.g. no tab targeting, etc.)
Tanks are less important because all classes can take some damage, and the Guardian Fighter can't hold all the aggro, not like how tanks in other games can have every single mob glued to them 24/7.
With that said, I'd say Clerics are certainly more common than Guardian Fighters. Right now, the tank is a rare and elusive beast, which some whisper is merely a myth.
--Nom Anor
1. Rogue
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2. Wizard
3. Cleric
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4. Guardian Fighter
5. Great Weapon Fighter
On that note I haven't been grouped with another Guardian Fighter whenever I do dungeons or skirmishes but I'm not sure if it's because the system balancing the group or because there just aren't that many.
TR is is the most common by far... I suspect because they are a lot of fun to play.
My guess at the order is this:
TR
CW
DC
GWF
GF
GF is definitely last because they have by far the slowest dps and leveling speed... some any instance that depends on fast killing can be very complicated. I am built very heavy defense though because I play MT. I have seen DPS build for GF and have thought of it but I value old fashion tank and spank. Though holding threat can be some serious work. Impossible almost verse a well play/geared TR... their DPS is insane.
And by GWF at low levels you mean 1-60, right
I found grouping with no GF smoother at lower levels, at high levels an experienced GF is an asset... but a bad GF is just... bad. I'd rather take a dps.
In PvP in the level 59 bracket they hit very hard and have reasonable mit at the same time.
Remember GWF is not DPS and is not a Tank.
They have 2nd best defense in the game and have 3rd best DPS both single target and AoE
GWF is a balanced class...
They will never out DPS a rogue or CW in single target nor should they.
They will never out DPS a CW or DC in AoE nor should they.
They will not tank better than a GF.
The sooner people accept this the better they will be off (mentally).
Now with that in mind yes they are Beasts and that AOE spike damage they do.. can be evil.
Odd, I thought Cryptic had made GWF out to be the AOE specialists, but if they are third in what is supposed to be their specialty that must be okay then......
You seriously think they would make the 2nd best defense class the best AoE.
The best AoE is CW and they are also the 5th lowest in defense.
DC are 2nd best AoE and the 5th in single target.
DC is also 3rd best defense.
So you tell me were do you think GWF should be in the list.. again they are balanced and not the best at anything.
Given that Crytpic went out of their way to promote the GWF as THE AOE class, then yes, I expect it to be good at AOE.
Also calling GWF the second best defense class is utterly disingenuous, and bordering on hilarious. AC != defence. On my TR and CW I take far less damage than my GWF simply because in one case I take the targets down so much faster and have abilities that enable me to engage/disengage almost at will, and in the second because range abilities and CC are so effective. So I end up taking far less damage while I also do far more damage on these classes at least up till level 38.
The fact that I have ALWAYS beaten every other class in GROUP DPS on my TR (once got beaten by another TR though) and never failed to be at least second (sometimes top) on my CW while 95% of the time the GWF (mine or anyone elses) is at the very bottom might be an indication of a balancing issue.
Given I have played many MMOs and am usually top or very near top in DPS when playing a semi-competitive DPS class, then yes the GWF is, at least until level 38, horribly broken. Perhaps it gets better at higher levels but you would think that having a class being so utterly underpowered for a good 2/3 of the levels might not be a such a great thing.