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dannyw22
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 31
just done a pvp and im playin a gwf the dmg on rogues is HAMSTER they are so strong, and to make it worse they have this 5 second silence on like a 10 second cd, by the time I can attack again, and yes I cant even use my auto attack on them ..... im almost dead thanks to the amount of dmg they do.
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devs can either waste time trying to buff every class, or just nerf rogue, but that might be hard now because 50% of the population is now playing an OP rogue and it might make the money grubbers in perfect world unhappy
One of the challenges to PvP is that a lot of teams simply don't perform well together. With a solid team, this is much less of an issue. I have done PvP where my TR (currently level 41) absolutely shreds the opposing teams, others where it is more balanced, and others where my guy spends half the time dead. In each case it has come down to teamwork. When I have a good team, it's great. When I have a bad team, I just want to log rather than spend most of my time dead.
Good teamwork can certainly prevail over unbalanced classes, but that does not negate the fact that class balance is important. Personally I do not have the knowledge yet to argue that HAMSTER class is under/over powered I am just stating it is an important aspect of the game regardless of teamwork. Like modt games I imagine it will be a neverending battle to get it "just right".
Stop trying to nerf a PVE game for PVP reasons!!!
And how is it "wasting" time to buff up other classes but worth it to nerf instead? You, sir, are an idiot...
This is a PVE game. The devs don't give a **** about your PVP whining.
Well no, not really. The reason I disagree with this is that classes shouldn't be balanced for PvP as that not how D&D works. I understand that this is an MMO based on the D&D 4th edition ruleset, but as a primarily PvE game we shouldn't be seeing classes nerfed for PvP reasons. We've already seen some illogical changes to TR's for this reason, such as the change to sneak attack from damage to run speed.
If there is an interest in creating a homogenized dueling scenario that is a fully level playing field and is effectively a separate mini-game, then great. Then everyone should be balanced.
In other words something like a seperate pvp instance where people queue to get in groups and pvp? Oh wait they already have that and that is what this post is about. Not trying to be a jerk, but clearly that is the scenario being discussed here. Whether this is a primarily PvE game or not if they make PvP part of it they need to try to make that pvp balanced. There ard many ways to balance the pvp aspect without impacting the pve. Again I am not saying it is unbalanced now I have not played nearly enough to have an opinion, but if pvp "minigames" are part of the game then having them reasonably balanced is important.
I havnt seen the real numbers but if it is a 5 second silence/CC with a 10 second cooldown, thats objectively overpowered no matter the faults, thats a one hit devastation on a class that can rinse and repeat fights. If you spend half the game down it probably means you're using stealth aggressively and not defensively, which is what most rogues do, use it for murdering. Also means the team is FOCUS FIRING THE ROGUES, which is a cool change of pace, usually its focus the healer or wizard, rogues arnt even that squishy.
Can someone link the stats of his skill, or a picture ?
Just imagine what rogues are going to be like in the world pvp areas...
Learn your class, level your class, and practice. I've been utterly erased by many a GWF (although usually not in the earlier levels, GWF is a late bloomer).
No, not at all.
What we have is an option where people take their characters as-is into an instance to fight against other people's characters. It is by no means an equal dueling scenario nor should it be. Olympic fencing has rules to make everyone equal, a street fight does not. What we have here is more akin to a street fight. What I was referring to is more like fencing.
Oh I see since the scenario is not exactly like you picture then no balance is needed. Time to get over yourself and realize that if you think balance of the pvp game is not important you are in the minority. More importantly though you do not go into pvp "as is". Your levels is adjusted in an attempt to balance things. Which brings up the most important factor and that is the devs are trying to balance pvp so whether balance is important to you in anything other than your narrowly constrained parameters it is important to developers.....clearly because it is important to players.
Respectfully, there are multiple perspectives here and all can be expressed and regarded without trying to minimize the opinions of others. Those who complain tend to be far louder and more vocal than those who aren't particularly bothered by it. As you can see in this thread, there is a diversity of opinion on this topic.
There is a significant difference between modifying relative power levels and changing skills entirely. The most important factor is people enjoying the game, which for some people involves PvP. Since the game is now fully in open beta, it remains to be seen how many people will view this as a key factor and it is premature at best to try and draw any conclusions about this.
That being said, I'll again repeat that my experience of PvP so far has been entirely affected by how well the group plays together. More than any party skills that is the defining factor.
be glad you're not fighting me. my cooldown is not 10s.
Isn't recovery the greatest thing since PvP whiners?
It's a daze effect rather than a silence effect. There are some enemies who have a similar attack.
(I tried to think of something funny about having the shout to raise your shield, but couldn't come up with anything good
Good point. I have found that recovery specced characters are brutal in PvP.