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Would a pure ice CW be viable?

tempotantrumstempotantrums Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 11 Arc User
edited May 2013 in PvE Discussion
Not really into the whole lightning and arcane thing. Was hoping to get some insight on a pure ice mage if possible.
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  • imivoimivo Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 1,682 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2013
    MM is really the main source of damage, so if you did not use it, I don't really think you would have a viable build.
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  • novronnovron Member Posts: 84 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    imivo wrote: »
    MM is really the main source of damage, so if you did not use it, I don't really think you would have a viable build.

    No reason he can't. Chilling cloud on one button and MM on the other. He gets a lot more control out of cold spec sacrificing a little bit of feat bonuses on arcane stacks. Better equipped to handle trash but not a punisher on bosses.
  • tempotantrumstempotantrums Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Theres a couple of feats that buff up chilling cloud to do decent single target dps as well as keeping the dmg debuff up 100% of the time. The debuff alone sounds like it would be worth the dps loss on end game bosses
  • imivoimivo Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 1,682 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2013
    novron wrote: »
    No reason he can't. Chilling cloud on one button and MM on the other. He gets a lot more control out of cold spec sacrificing a little bit of feat bonuses on arcane stacks. Better equipped to handle trash but not a punisher on bosses.

    MM is arcane and he said he wants to be pure ice-based, so I thought he would not use it. If he does use MM, anything will work.
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  • pantamimepantamime Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Pure Cold build CW is mainly for control purposes. I was building for Arcane / Lightning beczuse ti works good for while I am soloing.
    But, after fighting in the Lair of the Mad Dragon over and over I have found that cold spells can lock down multiple clusters of foes at once as well as continue to chain CC the elites that spawn.

    You won't be topping the DPS chart but that isn't really your role anyway. I mean hell we are called CONTROL wizards not WAR.
    Icy Terrain is a very underrated spell imo. Chilling Cloud as well. I am waiting until I get high enough to use Ice Ray and Steal time.

    Right Now I go between using Icy Terrain Chill Strike Entangling Force Conduit of Ice and MM and FR. Counduit of ice in Tab slot along with Icy terrain will pertty much insta freeze(well takes about 2 or 3 secs) the entire group since icy terrain immobilizes them for that short time. Throw out 1 chilling cloud combo or tap freeze ray on all of them for 1 hit.

    You can entangling force the elites that are on the terrain the build chill and just before entangling wears off hit them with freeze ray to block em up in ice.

    I have also found out that i should stop gearing towards crit, I think I am going to try a recovery heavy build.

    Anyone else have thoughts on a pure control build?
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  • stereoblindxstereoblindx Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 246 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2013
    Does Chilling Cloud end up doing more damage than Ray of Frost? I'd check myself but, ya know. That queue.
  • pantamimepantamime Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    LOL yea im stuck in queue too. I am not sure, I think it has the potential since the last hit is an AoE and a lot of Feat(paragon) buffs to it. I like it solely for the dmg debuff and aoe chill stacking. Works great with conduit and icy terrain
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  • stereoblindxstereoblindx Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 246 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2013
    pantamime wrote: »
    LOL yea im stuck in queue too. I am not sure, I think it has the potential since the last hit is an AoE and a lot of Feat(paragon) buffs to it. I like it solely for the dmg debuff and aoe chill stacking. Works great with conduit and icy terrain

    I'm trying to remember what exactly the debuff is. Is it more than just chill? I've stayed away from chilling cloud so far due to the fact that ray of frost stacks chill quicker so I can pop conduit but I haven't properly had a chance to play around with chilling cloud.
  • novronnovron Member Posts: 84 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    imivo wrote: »
    MM is arcane and he said he wants to be pure ice-based, so I thought he would not use it. If he does use MM, anything will work.

    There's little if anything else worth slotting besides MM. The cold ray is pretty meh. He doesn't want the storm one (and it sucks,) so not much left but to slot MM and keep it handy for bosses since chill doesn't affect them.
  • imivoimivo Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 1,682 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2013
    Exactly. MM is the only truly good At-Will ability. RoF is a far off second. Every other At-Will is, ah, not impressive. :)
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  • kagleskagles Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Yeah generally MM seems to be a hands down choice no matter what build you are choosing.
  • pantamimepantamime Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    The effect for Chill Cloud is a damage debuff to all hit with the 3rd shots aoe. 1 more level til I can try out Ice Ray, im pretty excited
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