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HUGE PvP concern - premades vs pug's.
lexthegreat
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Today we ran around with a premade team for PvP and literally kicked ***, often capping all points. PvP also popped really fast for us.
How is the current system looking for PvP opponents? Is it just a free for all? In that case, anyone rolling with a premade has a HUGE advantage over all the people pugging.
How is the current system looking for PvP opponents? Is it just a free for all? In that case, anyone rolling with a premade has a HUGE advantage over all the people pugging.
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Right now if you are running a group, not only will PvP pop all the time, but you will also completely slaughter and dominate the other team.
Seems some people figured this out though. I went up against another premade yesterday and was surprised that we weren't roflstomping them.
People using their brains and grouping up to win in peeveepees!
Who woulda thunk it -_-
It is. When they fall in PvP, you have to kick them to get the kill. Otherwise their team mates will resurrect them.
All I'm saying is that maybe groups should have their own ques.
Please read the post. The issue is that my pre made gets matched vs pugs. Just suggesting that people that are in groups don't get matched vs solo que ones.
Yep. Like in most modern MMO's, it should be group vs group and random vs random.
Although I am really enjoying my group vs random atm.
I've read your post do not worry:).I still remember my guild zerging pugs in Ultima online in 2002.I also remember my clan joining public servers in battlefield 2 in 2005 and murdering the server a million times .I also remember my guild doing the exact same thing in wow and the EXACT same thing in GW2. I may seem rude but really, forming a party with friends-clan-guild and eliminating pugs is the best thing in the history of online gaming and I don't find it a concern ( I see you edited as " Huge" concern). You are also confused about what pugs vs set teams vs pro teams mean. If you and your friends were matched up only with teams you will eventually start matching with clans and dedicated pvpers and your concerns would get turned around after a few crashing defeats. We don't want a forum post by you in this forum in a few weeks stating that you're just trying to play with friends and have some fun but you are keep getting destroyed in pvp are we now? As I said you are inexperienced so pls stop asking about changes that will backfire on you:)
You just proved that you never read the OP's post.
It was always "Huge"
Your points are also all invalid and seem come offish and elitist.
As someone that started competitive PvP with M59, what you say is rubbish.
MMOG's are moving forward, not back. We should have a solo q and a team one. Problem solved. Or at least make teams more likely to be matched up vs other teams. It is no longer fun, at least for me, to roflstomp pugs.
Was afraid this would happen. EVERY game this is ALWAYS an issue. Pre-Mades vs PUGS.
what SHOULD happen is you pre-mades only queue against other pre-mades and pugs only queue against pugs. The problem with that is when NO pre-mades queue because of the lack of other pre-mades queueing.
ELO matchmaking would work also but i don't know if Cryptic does that.
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Was it always HUGE?
Also my points are invalid? Ah and rubbish too:)
So you think that a team of friends that wants to have fun should match with my clan? And that this will be fun for them? Ok point taken I guess. I just happen to have a different( "rubbish" ofcourse) opinion than you. Thanks for your answer and insight..
That would actually be ideal.
You are most welcome. Glad we came to the same conclusion.
The point is that there will always be a lot more solo q's than team ones. Having them match vs guilds will be a better solution than having guilds and premades matched vs solo q's.
Now THIS is a good suggestion unlike all the other clueless ones in here. ELO would solve the problem of experienced clans matching with casual teams. STill this is not viable, as Zhao already said, because the waiting would be too long
Team versus Team queue and ELO score ranking solve this problem fairly well. of course people who really just want to ROFLstomp weaker players will always find a way to do so, but this setup makes things fairer and more challenging for everyone.
Sigh I really don't know why I'm bothering with this but I will try one last time.. The chance that a solo player will match with a team lots of times is small since, like you said too, the soloers are far more than the teams.It will usually be pug vs pug. SO I really don;t see a problem with mixed q's. On the other hand if there is team q's casual teams will match with guilds all the time because teams are not that many. I kinda see a problem there unless there is an ELO system (not viable because teams are not that many). Also I will not get to kill pugs with my guild (NOT fun). That's my last "rubbish" point for this one I think:)
ps: I'm following this post since it started and I actually think that the title was edited but I might be indeed wrong