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Paragon Paths?

werealchemistwerealchemist Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
edited May 2013 in PvE Discussion
Every class only has 1 Paragon path? I realize it's probably because its "open beta' and time did not allow for it. I personally see this as being one of the MAJOR class customization options, without it i feel that choosing any class is going to fall short of being MY character. paragon paths should have been more important than this silly point buy skill tree business IMHO.

my major concern is that i have not seen ANY source that has confirmed more paragon paths other than the window in game that states
More paragon paths coming soon
does anyone have any information or input on this?
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  • madqhuemadqhue Member Posts: 58 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I thought this to be mighty curious as well. It sort of obviates the whole point of having a paragon path if every character has to 'choose' the same one.

    I'm sure that they will eventually add in some more paths, but at what price-point? 1000 zen?
  • cathgar457cathgar457 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Wasn't there more Paragon Paths in Beta Weekend 4, wonder why they would have removed them?
  • t3hc0rr0d3rt3hc0rr0d3r Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    There were in alpha, not in beta.
  • kaelon79kaelon79 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 55
    edited April 2013
    I wouldn't worry about it too much and look at it more optimistically with getting a free respec once they add other paragon paths.
  • targo29targo29 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    kaelon79 wrote: »
    I wouldn't worry about it too much and look at it more optimistically with getting a free respec once they add other paragon paths.

    Don't hold your breathe on that idea.doubt free respecs will be given out with new paths.
  • werealchemistwerealchemist Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    targo29 wrote: »
    Don't hold your breathe on that idea.doubt free respecs will be given out with new paths.

    kinda thinking they dang well better
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  • madqhuemadqhue Member Posts: 58 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    They most certainly will not. It is a free-to-play title, charging for things like respec and new character options is how they will make money.
  • kaelon79kaelon79 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 55
    edited April 2013
    They have already stated and shown in their other games that anytime they make a change to the class structure they offer a respec. This was stated many times in the beta forums and if no free respec would be offered in such a case a paragon choice then this game won't be making it very far.
  • werealchemistwerealchemist Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    cathgar457 wrote: »
    Wasn't there more Paragon Paths in Beta Weekend 4, wonder why they would have removed them?
    t3hc0rr0d3r wrote: »
    There were in alpha, not in beta.

    Does anyone have more info on these?
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  • silvergryphsilvergryph Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 740 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I believe the Alpha testers are still under NDA and cannot discuss them.
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  • zippichzippich Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 93 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    kaelon79 wrote: »
    They have already stated and shown in their other games that anytime they make a change to the class structure they offer a respec. This was stated many times in the beta forums and if no free respec would be offered in such a case a paragon choice then this game won't be making it very far.

    Yep, they will be giving free retrait token in STO (traits receiving revamp next month), nothing to worry about here :)
  • kotlikotli Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 577
    edited April 2013
    Well I can give you a list of Paragon Paths from for the current classes from 4e PHB 1:
    Fighter: Iron vanguard, Kensei, Pit fighter and Swordmaster.
    Cleric: Angelic avenger, Divine oracle, Radiant servant and Warpriest.
    Rogue: Cat burglar, Daggermaster, Master infiltrator and Shadow assassin.
    Wizard: Battle mage, Blood mage, Spellstorm mage and Wizard of the Spiral Tower.
  • hexagarhexagar Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 44
    edited April 2013
    I watched a lvl 9 GF who was streaming last night and im sure that i saw 3 branches of his paragon tree.

    One was conqueror , the other was tactitian and i can't remember the 3rd branch.
  • iamzelpexiamzelpex Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    There should be more paths by now but still there are no new paths :(
  • dusknoiredusknoire Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Can someone explain to me what a paragon path is? or point me in the direction where I can find information to it on the website?
  • wingedkagoutiwingedkagouti Member Posts: 275 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    hexagar wrote: »
    I watched a lvl 9 GF who was streaming last night and im sure that i saw 3 branches of his paragon tree.

    One was conqueror , the other was tactitian and i can't remember the 3rd branch.
    Those are Paragon Feats, not Paragon Paths. Two very different things.
    Can someone explain to me what a paragon path is? or point me in the direction where I can find information to it on the website?
    Paragon Paths are a fixed selection of post level 30 powers that help shape your character, once you select one Paragon Path you can't pick another without using a respec.
  • imivoimivo Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 1,682 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2013
    madqhue wrote: »
    They most certainly will not. It is a free-to-play title, charging for things like respec and new character options is how they will make money.

    They gave free respecs in their other games, so there is no reason to believe it will be different here. New classes will also be free, which has been stated over and over.
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  • werealchemistwerealchemist Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I really just wish each class had at least 2 paths at launch. As it is now it really feels... idk... silly...i guess that they even bothered to put a place holder for them. I have no hopes that they are even going to release them "soon" as they are still working on those two other classes...
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  • mewbreymewbrey Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 517 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2013
    werealchemist wrote: »
    I really just wish each class had at least 2 paths at launch. As it is now it really feels... idk... silly...i guess that they even bothered to put a place holder for them. I have no hopes that they are even going to release them "soon" as they are still working on those two other classes...

    With a little luck they will release one extra paragon path for every current class and the new ones when the first batch of new classes are release, will see in 2 months or so... fingers crossed!
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  • env3cenv3c Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    silvergryph wrote: »
    I believe the Alpha testers are still under NDA and cannot discuss them.
    Really? Anyone know when that would be lifted? Surely it would be the 30th at the latest.
  • werealchemistwerealchemist Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I don't understand why the NDA for ALPHA would still be up.....
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  • imivoimivo Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 1,682 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2013
    werealchemist wrote: »
    I don't understand why the NDA for ALPHA would still be up.....

    This is pretty common, though. Alpha NDAs tend to persist for a variety of reasons. (I don't know if this is the case here, but I've alpha tested a few games over the years and in most cases the NDA was never lifted.)
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  • werealchemistwerealchemist Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Hmm interesting i guess...

    i still don't understand it though
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  • nuggetgoonnuggetgoon Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    In BW4 they did a free respec due to slight changes. I would have to assume that if they added something as big as new Paragon Paths they would offer another free respec.
  • wingedkagoutiwingedkagouti Member Posts: 275 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    nuggetgoon wrote: »
    In BW4 they did a free respec due to slight changes. I would have to assume that if they added something as big as new Paragon Paths they would offer another free respec.
    I wouldn't call "Completely revamping the entire power progression system" a 'slight change'.
  • wmeffectivenesswmeffectiveness Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 33
    edited April 2013
    They may have different groups working on different aspects of the game; so one team makes the new classes, while another team slaves away for paragon paths (and possibly looking at epic destinies).
    Company size usually dictates this kinda stuff I'd wager, but developers split their human resources into teams to work on different game aspects at the same time.
    So it probably is not like developing a new race robs us of time spent crafting a new class.
  • werealchemistwerealchemist Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    wmeffectiveness wrote: »
    They may have different groups working on different aspects of the game; so one team makes the new classes, while another team slaves away for paragon paths (and possibly looking at epic destinies).
    Company size usually dictates this kinda stuff I'd wager, but developers split their human resources into teams to work on different game aspects at the same time.
    So it probably is not like developing a new race robs us of time spent crafting a new class.

    yeah that's true but priorities play a big part in it too and from the looks of it the new classes are higher priority than paragon paths so they have more resources allocated to that which would increase the time of one over the other.
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  • gnome08gnome08 Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    We will be able to re choose a paragon path by respeccing correct?
    kaelon79 wrote: »
    They have already stated and shown in their other games that anytime they make a change to the class structure they offer a respec. This was stated many times in the beta forums and if no free respec would be offered in such a case a paragon choice then this game won't be making it very far.


    Also can you link where they stated that many times? Im really interesting in knowing if ill get a free respec or not when more paragon paths come out.
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