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Ardent Coins

daxx360daxx360 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
edited June 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
I was just wondering if we could get the official word on if Ardent coins have now become a once per day reward for invoking? They used to be given out each time you invoked which seemed much more reasonable considering the cost of some of the Ardent items. If they are now a once per day rewards, could you tell us the reason for this switch?
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  • frost168frost168 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    daxx360 wrote: »
    I was just wondering if we could get the official word on if Ardent coins have now become a once per day reward for invoking? They used to be given out each time you invoked which seemed much more reasonable considering the cost of some of the Ardent items. If they are now a once per day rewards, could you tell us the reason for this switch?

    cough BETA cough
  • sup3rpand4sup3rpand4 Member, NW_CrypticDev, Neverwinter Beta Users, Cryptic Developers, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 17
    edited April 2013
    Even in beta there were 2 coins, Ardent and Celestial (sp?). They are both for daily, but Ardent is for consecutive daily. Celestial just stacks up.

    Or maybe i switched the names, there are 2 anyway.
  • healhamstahealhamsta Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 572 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2013
    Do they still glitch out and vanish when exiting zones?
    .-.
    Delve loot murdered my TR, DC, & GWF. Nerf Plox:
    ambisinisterr wrote: »
    I know that it sucks to no longer get gear to sell from the Dungeon Delve chest but it was truly overpowered.
  • sup3rpand4sup3rpand4 Member, NW_CrypticDev, Neverwinter Beta Users, Cryptic Developers, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 17
    edited April 2013
    Not that I've seen?
  • healhamstahealhamsta Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 572 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2013
    Excellent.
    Delve loot murdered my TR, DC, & GWF. Nerf Plox:
    ambisinisterr wrote: »
    I know that it sucks to no longer get gear to sell from the Dungeon Delve chest but it was truly overpowered.
  • jetahjetah Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    The group I run with has determined the daily reset is around 8am pdt. you'll get rewards for the first 3 invokes, afterwards you'll get a buff (and randomly an item).
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  • daxx360daxx360 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    frost168 wrote: »
    cough BETA cough

    Yes, I understand it is still in Beta and everything is subject to change. I also understand that this is Beta and things can/do/will bug and not work correctly. Hence my asking if this was an intended change, or if I ran into a problem.
  • multisensorysmultisensorys Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    1 coin per day is absolutely terrible. At this rate, it will take over 2 years just to get the mounts and companion. Also, on an unrelated note, is there seriously no feedback forum? I refuse to believe that this is a serious beta if there is not a place specifically for giving feedback.
  • lordfuzunlordfuzun Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 54
    edited May 2013
    multisensorys wrote: »
    1 coin per day is absolutely terrible. At this rate, it will take over 2 years just to get the mounts and companion. Also, on an unrelated note, is there seriously no feedback forum? I refuse to believe that this is a serious beta if there is not a place specifically for giving feedback.

    The Ardent and Celestial Coins are form of loyalty rewards. The Ardent coin is for playing over long period of time. The Celestial coin is for playing consistently. All that is required it to log into a character and performs one action. Not that much of a commitment at all.
  • clurdgeclurdge Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 153 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    multisensorys wrote: »
    1 coin per day is absolutely terrible. At this rate, it will take over 2 years just to get the mounts and companion. Also, on an unrelated note, is there seriously no feedback forum? I refuse to believe that this is a serious beta if there is not a place specifically for giving feedback.

    Of course this is not seriously a beta it is a launch. Besides that I have zero problems with how lonh it takes to get the items. Thdy are not gamebreaking items to not have. I see it more just being a cool reward for people who are active in games for a long time. I usually get bored within 6 months in mmo so doubt I will ever see anything nice with them.
  • multisensorysmultisensorys Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    lordfuzun wrote: »
    The Ardent and Celestial Coins are form of loyalty rewards. The Ardent coin is for playing over long period of time. The Celestial coin is for playing consistently. All that is required it to log into a character and performs one action. Not that much of a commitment at all.

    I didn't say anything about how you obtain them, it's the fact that you get a single coin per day, with rewards costing 100-350 coins. As I said, it will take at least a year just to get the companion.
  • kimmurieloblodrakimmurieloblodra Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    multisensorys wrote: »
    I didn't say anything about how you obtain them, it's the fact that you get a single coin per day, with rewards costing 100-350 coins. As I said, it will take at least a year just to get the companion.

    Yes.

    they've been quoted in an AMA saying they wanted the companion to take a year to earn. Do you have a problem with that?
  • labbblabbb Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    so ? I'm in no hurry to get the angel of OP-ness .
  • astaziaastazia Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 51
    edited May 2013
    I would honestly buy the angel if they put it up for Zen, and I really hope they do if only to regulate the price somewhat when people start putting them on the AH in a year. It's the only pet in the game I would consider spending money on, and ironically the one pet I'm likely never going to be able to get. I have never logged into a character for 360 days, not even close. My longest played characters in any game have like 20 days /played on them and that's usually done over a period of 30-60 days (yes I have no life and often play games for more than 12 hours a day).
  • blorgenstogblorgenstog Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0
    edited May 2013
    It wouldn't be so bad if they altered the tooltip on the ardent coins in the inventory, it doesn't state at all that they are a once a day item like the celestial coins show, ardent coins say they are given when you use the prayer. Hemce most people would think that these are given per prayer every hour. Please alter the caption for the ardent coins so people know exactly what time frame they are given in.
  • enderlin50enderlin50 Member Posts: 993 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I will use the Angel on a Paladin for sure.
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  • elessymelessym Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    enderlin50 wrote: »
    I will use the Angel on a Paladin for sure.

    Assuming we get Paladins any time in the next year...
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  • meetrasurikmeetrasurik Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    The Ardent coin system is yet another exsample of Cryptic's complete lack of any thought in this game. In theory its a good idea, you give people a reason to log on, and stay logged in, or to log in every hour, and or, day. However, you might think that would cause them to think to themselves "Hmm, if it takes logging on every day in order to get rewards, maybe we should make the goals reachable, and not make the only tier 3 healing companion take 360 days of logging in to get. For that amount of time it better be freaken AWESOME to keep me logging in everyday for a year! So far not impressed, GW2 is in the same genre and is done much better. Rethink this and this game might start improving. ME WANT ANGEL!!!!!
  • sirsitsalotsirsitsalot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    frost168 wrote: »
    cough BETA cough
    cough LIVE cough
    I'm not really a John Galt,
    but I play one on the forums...
    :P
  • wingofbenuwingofbenu Member Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    lordfuzun wrote: »
    The Ardent and Celestial Coins are form of loyalty rewards. The Ardent coin is for playing over long period of time. The Celestial coin is for playing consistently. All that is required it to log into a character and performs one action. Not that much of a commitment at all.

    unless you have some sort of commitment that precludes logging in. Like a business trip,, roadtrip, family vacation or a hospital stay,.
  • ambisinisterrambisinisterr Member, Neverwinter Moderator Posts: 10,462 Community Moderator
    edited May 2013
    It's also important to note you can only keep a maximum of seven Celestial Coins.
    Does it suck to lose them? Yeah!

    But at worst you are only losing 6 days of invoking. 7 if you didn't cash them in immediately after your seventh invocation.
  • direcrowdirecrow Banned Users, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    kimmurieloblodra wrote: »
    Yes.

    they've been quoted in an AMA saying they wanted the companion to take a year to earn. Do you have a problem with that?

    For something that takes a year? No. For something that I need to play every single day for a year? Hell yes.
    Even WoW's Violet Proto Drake required all holiday achievements. A whole year's time, but didn't require you to log in, hit a button and log out every day for a year. At least make the goal enjoyable. Not stupid busywork for an excessive period of time.

    Most people won't see it in a year, more like two or three, and even more realistically, NEVER. and after two or three years, who is to say how outdated it may be? They created something with stats appropriate to the current game, and yet require a year's time to receive. and that doesn't even take into consideration players who start a year or two from now.
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  • wingofbenuwingofbenu Member Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    direcrow wrote: »
    For something that takes a year? No. For something that I need to play every single day for a year? Hell yes.
    Even WoW's Violet Proto Drake required all holiday achievements. A whole year's time, but didn't require you to log in, hit a button and log out every day for a year. At least make the goal enjoyable. Not stupid busywork for an excessive period of time.

    Most people won't see it in a year, more like two or three, and even more realistically, NEVER. and after two or three years, who is to say how outdated it may be? They created something with stats appropriate to the current game, and yet require a year's time to receive. and that doesn't even take into consideration players who start a year or two from now.

    This.

    Taking a year to get a cool reward, perfectly cool. designing it in such a way as to make it less a fun, if hard thing to do and more a nearly impossible and pretty much half-assed gesture? Not cool.
  • kaladinsurgekaladinsurge Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    The Angel is reasonable for logging in for a year but all the other blue quality items (weapons) for 150 Ardent coins (150 days) is ridiculas. I would of thought that most if not all players would have better quality and better stats weapons way before 150 days played.
  • wingedkagoutiwingedkagouti Member Posts: 275 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    kaladinsurge wrote: »
    The Angel is reasonable for logging in for a year but all the other blue quality items (weapons) for 150 Ardent coins (150 days) is ridiculas. I would of thought that most if not all players would have better quality and better stats weapons way before 150 days played.
    Those weapons you get for the special look, which you use to overwrite whatever weapon you're actually using (with the Change Appearance option).
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