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licourtrix1
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I've seen a lot of talk on crit builds, was wondering if anyone has looked into armor pen as a viable damage build.
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As far as I know, no feat effects armor pen. So all you're getting is the %.
As far as crit goes, you're getting the % crit. But you can also go into the Renegade Paragon tree, which has feats that increase the % chance, increase AP gain, add a % chance to grant combat advantage toward that mob for the entire team, and increase crit severity as a result of that combat advantage (or combat advantage damage in general).
I can't really see armor pen holding a candle to crit unless the endgame gear doesn't have any viable crit bonuses, and instead has armor pen. In which case I'll probably stack armor pen/power and go with the Thaumaturge tree...maybe. That MM buff at the end of Renegade is too sexy though.
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then why play a control wizard? Are you helping your party more by focusing on dps and not helping control the mobs?
By going down the Renegade tree, having high crit helps your team immensely. Building faster AP for Arcane Singularity, and granting combat advantage to your entire team. Plus the final feat for Renegade is literally just a support add-on for Magic Missile.
You simply have to understand the balance between damage and control. I had 30% crit rate at level 41, but was locking down mobs better than most other CWs I ran across, simply because I knew how to use my skills better than they did.
Unfortunately, I don't have any screenshots saved of my character window. But I focused almost all of my stats on crit. 20 charisma at the end, all the crit feats, and I believe I had roughly 1.3k crit rating.
They most likely did poorly on controlling mobs because their focus was on doing damage. I generally focus on controlling, and just let the damage and crits come to me (I will admit I had Sudden Storm hotkeyed, but that was mostly for soloing).
If they would give us a dps choice for wizard I am betting most wouldn't choose the control wizard.
Until they do, us wizards will have to try and make this guy into what we want to play it seems.
Ha my thoughts exactly.
No matter what CW is intended to do there are many gamers now-a-days that just want to roll face and do and much DPS as they can. We can see that with the whole GWF debacle. This can also be attributed in part to the addition of PvP.
They should have chosen to start with:
one Leader
one Defender
one Controller
and
three strikers (one for each of the holy trinity of d&d)
Wizard Striker, Rogue Striker and Fighter Striker
This would have given the PvP players who just want to slap people around some choice.
And basically it would have meant one additional class... wizard striker. Then convert GWF to a pure striker and you would have three strikers to choose from for PvP purposes.
But at this point it basically is what it is.
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― R.A. Salvatore
The warlock is coming
if you would play a control wizard in its role you will have no problem doing good damage. so look at all those control aoes and what spell do you use in your tab key?
This is how those wizards will play until the warlock comes out, if that is indeed the wizard striker class.
Instead of bashing on them for trying to make the control wizard into more of a dps role, why not try and set up a spec that isn't utter garbage and see how that plays out?