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Im just going to laugh in the face of people that ask for healing
bejita231
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Because i wont be speced for any healing at all on my cleric, there's no point at all to having a heal skill on your bar when you can have 3 aoe skills and just roll over packs of mobs all day whill spamming potions, cleric healing is made in a way where its not needed thanks to pot spamming and any class can basically out heal you with potions, so if people are going to slow down my dungeon run because they dont want to spend any money on potions im just going to laugh in their face
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I think we should wait on this, its the first dungeon in the game. Why would they even bother putting the trinity in the game if it wasn't necessary at some point for classes to actually preform a specific role? I think its silly to assume that you won't NEED a cleric in later dungeons. The same goes for a tank. I watched cloak tower runs over the beta weekend in which the group had no Guardian Fighter...so are we to assume that because its not absolutely vital to have the perfect group composition in the very first group content introduced in the game that you will never need a tank and/or healer? I think that would be a poor assumption. Pump the breaks on this, lets wait and see.
Right, because the level 16 dungeon is a clear example of how vital a cleric will be at end game...../facepalm
^ This exactly
Because rogues is melee which i hate unless its tanky, and mage is too squishy for me, cleric in this game is a battlemage not a healer
And if my healing is worthless at lvl 30, then there's nothing stoping it from being worthless at 60 when dungeons do not have hard modes, and all you get is some limited heals that heal for very little, potions reign supreme
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Z0E6Yw-M1YY#t=2981s
Take from that what you will.
It may come down to when you need heals you break off from the boss so the cleric can hit you. As for the lack of needing a healer you had some skilled players during the bossfights if any players got hit by one of the bosses emotes they absolutely needed my attention.
I'm not sure if this is an attempt to troll, but it seems like it is.
What 3 aoe skills are you talking about? There were only two encounter powers that I remember from my level 20 cleric that had aoe... the one centered on the caster that damages enemies and heals nearby allies, and chains of light that damages and binds enemies so allies can kill them easier. Almost every cleric ability buffs or heals allies, even two of the three at-wills, which is exactly what the cleric (leader role) is supposed to be doing.
If you specifically picked all the powers that don't heal, it's not recommended but you have that option. Laughing in the face of people that ask for healing is the exact opposite of what I saw from clerics over the beta weekend; actually, whenever I was injured and passed a cleric, I'd receive random heals even when not grouped which was extremely helpful and made for a more fun experience. As for potion spamming to replace a cleric, just like in any other MMO, that's just insane.
Seriously dude you really think that just because you played beta and you rolled over some mobs that is just the way the game is? Hahaha right now I am laughing in your face. First of all the damage and leveling in this game during beta was picked up X4. If you think for one second that this is the finished product then you are highly mistaken. I really don't care about if you heal or not during dungeons (just don't be in my group I always play tanks and believe me I know how to get back at some healer with some weird ideal thinking their <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> don't stink). You do have to remember this pal after you do let groups die word would get around and all the dungeons you "think" you will go to that stuff won't happen sooner or later
If you truly believe that people are going to invite you to party's just so you can tell them to "use health pots, I am a dps cleric" I don't foresee you being invited back to many groups for end game activity's. All of that aside we do not know the difficulty of the game at the higher levels so far all we have tested is the lower level things which the developers have stated should be easy and not require much thought process to get through.
So before we levy judgment on an entire class in the beginning stages of the first public beta perhaps we should see what happens in beta weekends two and three ya?
I am guessing that Clerics will see a significant debuff in the near future. They are a little powerful right now.
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A hint along the way would be nice 'cause if people doon't get used to it before end game they are not going to enjoy all the dieing they do at end game.
Actually the one time I paid attention to the kills and heals pop up my cleric had healed more than the next two combined and there was another cleric in the party. Seals and those AoEs can do massive amounts of heal.
And who is to say that potions won't lower in rarity as you level? Sure, I had 46 cure minor wounds potions (Thanks to leveling with a cleric) but will you have 46 cure critical wounds later?
I haven't played all the content, but I've done one more dungeon that you have. So, let's go with this:
To put it into WOW terms: You just lolhealed Deadmines and Gnomeregan, and you're telling me how to spec a priest for Ragnaros? Thanks, appreciate the advice, but I hope you don't mind if I think differently.
I believe you are making the presumption that very little will change from here until launch, and assumptions about higher level content having the same difficulty as the content we have experienced this past weekend. Based on past experience, difficulty and powers will be adjusted as the developers see fit. I am certain even Cryptic cannot ignore the numerous recounts of how easy the game was during the beta weekend, and the overpowered/useful nature of healing potions. I have made my own presumptions/assumptions here as well, I just look at the cup half full based on past experience with Cryptic, and mmo's in general.
Cheers!
to assume makes an <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> out of u and me
....and stop comparing WOW too D&D campaigns, they are not the same monster. And stop using the words dps, tanks, and that horrid word instances; IT'S A FRIKN QUEST OR ADVENTURE IN DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS campaigns. I've been playing D&D since the late 70's so I know better.
I'd look at all the info because in one of the gaming runs on twitch one of the devs said to the media in a run thru that there would be a harder level in the dungeons for end game.
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