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We will see lots of Devouted Clerics in this game

phazonfreakphazonfreak Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 4 Arc User
edited February 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
After seeing some ingame footage and especially the trailer, I predict that we will see lots of Devoted Clerics in the beta weekends and after release, Cryptic made healing look cool. Awesome abilities, awesome visuals, awesome class. Just saying...
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  • ninjaganninjagan Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I've always loved Clerics ♥
  • mandodo69mandodo69 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Silverstars Posts: 6
    edited February 2013
    lol tons of them (and we were worried about Drizzt clones) lol
  • denkasaebadenkasaeba Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Moar clerics = less issues.
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  • zylaxxzylaxx Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 591 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2013
    denkasaeba wrote: »
    Moar clerics = less issues.


    yea but the issue I see is there will be less Guardian Fighters. personally I think they look like a really bland class, their the only class that don't get any form of movment escape (yes I know shield block absorbs all damage) because your first instinct is to always move out of the red stuff. Hope I am wrong though.
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  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    zylaxx wrote: »
    .... personally I think they look like a really bland class,....

    Dont assume until you try it out would be the advise i would give.
  • normanoftharnormanofthar Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 39
    edited February 2013
    The only thing I worry about is that all the other classes get "dash out of way" abilities, the guardian fighter gets block. But block is their class ability where the other classes get stealth, divine power, etc and the get out of the way ability.

    Seems odd, esp when you have to build block up for it to be useful (like the other class abilities).
  • denkasaebadenkasaeba Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    zylaxx wrote: »
    yea but the issue I see is there will be less Guardian Fighters. personally I think they look like a really bland class, their the only class that don't get any form of movment escape (yes I know shield block absorbs all damage) because your first instinct is to always move out of the red stuff. Hope I am wrong though.

    I don't think so. Fighters are one of the most loved class in the game and it has many fans. While many of them will choose to be a TH fighter, this doesn't mean we will lack tanks. Anyway, you can still get out from red stuff (and you may have to) even if you are a guardian fighter.
    The only thing I worry about is that all the other classes get "dash out of way" abilities, the guardian fighter gets block. But block is their class ability where the other classes get stealth, divine power, etc and the get out of the way ability.

    I don't see Block, mechanically speaking, as different as you think from Stealth. It's just a "stance".
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  • hotshot121hotshot121 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I just switch my class to cleric :P
  • haldarehaldare Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    We will see lots of Clerics.

    98.2% of them will be DPS Clerics and refuse to heal in PUG Dungeons.;)
  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    denkasaeba wrote: »
    ...
    I don't see Block, mechanically speaking, as different as you think from Stealth. It's just a "stance".
    He meant that unlike rogue who gets dodge and stealth, GF only gets block.

    However that itself shows how overpowered block is that they have to add 2 things in other classes to compensate.
  • denkasaebadenkasaeba Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    haldare wrote: »
    We will see lots of Clerics.

    98.2% of them will be DPS Clerics and refuse to heal in PUG Dungeons.;)

    I had a laugh, but the cleric is "inherently" leader-ish. Most of the stuff you cast at least makes something for your party companions. You have to be REALLY selfish and be able to select only damage stuff to ignore at all healing and team-helping... and most of PUGs aren't really able to select anything.
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  • denkasaebadenkasaeba Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    gillrmn wrote: »
    He meant that unlike rogue who gets dodge and stealth, GF only gets block.

    However that itself shows how overpowered block is that they have to add 2 things in other classes to compensate.

    Well, if the rogue gets dodge, the fighter wears platemail :D
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  • normanoftharnormanofthar Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 39
    edited February 2013
    denkasaeba wrote: »
    I don't think so. Fighters are one of the most loved class in the game and it has many fans. While many of them will choose to be a TH fighter, this doesn't mean we will lack tanks. Anyway, you can still get out from red stuff (and you may have to) even if you are a guardian fighter.



    I don't see Block, mechanically speaking, as different as you think from Stealth. It's just a "stance".

    I'm not saying its different at all, from what I've seen it builds just like stealth and divine power. Each time you use it (and get hit) the amount of block power you have is reduced by the hit.

    What I am saying is the other classes get "move out of the way quickly" ability *and* class abilities while the guardian doesn't get a "move out of the way quickly" type ability because they have block (which doesn't work when you are out of "block" power).

    Does that make more sense?
  • denkasaebadenkasaeba Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    normanofthar wrote: »
    Does that make more sense?

    Yes, it does, sorry for my bad understanding ^^

    Well, i can surely say that the guardian fighter has the equipment and the abilities to stand the fight. And nothing prevents developers from creating movement skills for fighters too. In fact, i think they have at least a charge and a leap ability.

    That said, maybe the 2h fighter will work differently.
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  • morbicmorbic Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I was watching one of the other videos and it seemed like you could avoid some of the red splats by just using usual wasd movements. I think the dodging abilities are more for when one gets surrounded or for last second movements when one wants to get that last hit in. Guardians just need to get used to mob positioning in order to not get surrounded when more adds arrive...
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  • raugarraugar Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 118 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2013
    after seeing the trailer i think so too ^^. at least in the trailer the cleric looked more spectacular than the wizard :D. adding his usefullness on top of that...i think there'll be lots of clerics
  • denkasaebadenkasaeba Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    morbic wrote: »
    I was watching one of the other videos and it seemed like you could avoid some of the red splats by just using usual wasd movements. I think the dodging abilities are more for when one gets surrounded or for last second movements when one wants to get that last hit in. Guardians just need to get used to mob positioning in order to not get surrounded when more adds arrive...

    Well, you can move during the combat... and one of the biggest rules in WoW was to tank stuff on the other side from the rest of the party. Apparently in NO stuff will be tanked like this

    GF XX R
    ... XX GWF W

    DCL

    Legend: Guardian Fighter: GF, R: Rogue, GWF: Great Weapon Fighter, W: Wizard, DCL: Devoted Cleric, X: Mob

    Obiouvsly this will work only on big stuff without consistent adds, but at least it's something people will care about. This is to get the most out of flanking bonus, obiouvsly, and making the cleric able to target each player consistently.
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  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    denkasaeba wrote: »
    Well, you can move during the combat... and one of the biggest rules in WoW was to tank stuff on the other side from the rest of the party. Apparently in NO stuff will be tanked like this

    GF XX R
    ... XX GWF W

    DCL

    Legend: Guardian Fighter: GF, R: Rogue, GWF: Great Weapon Fighter, W: Wizard, DCL: Devoted Cleric, X: Mob

    Obiouvsly this will work only on big stuff without consistent adds, but at least it's something people will care about. This is to get the most out of flanking bonus, obiouvsly, and making the cleric able to target each player consistently.


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    XX(GWF)XX
    ..XX......XX..


    DCL, W


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    Legend:-
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    R:- Rogue lotting the chest while party is fighting

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  • denkasaebadenkasaeba Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Rofl. Can't wait to play with you, if you're not the rogue.
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  • iamtruthseekeriamtruthseeker Member, Moonstars, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Me Fight with Sword! Me Bob of Tempus! You know class am I?
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  • gyloirgyloir Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Cleric was my main class I wanted to play, however after watching the video I'm not.

    I am used to playing the cleric as a MELEE fighter, wearing full plate armor, using a mace. That is how the clerics I like from D&D are, the fighting clerics. I hope that kind of cleric is added in later.

    I do not keep up with the D&D rulebooks or anything, but in NWN 1/2 that's how they were there. From what I've gathered 4th edition has a "deveoted" cleric (which I assume this class is based on) that's more a range/healer, and a "battle cleric" that is melee fighter, which is the one I want.

    As far as seeing Clerics in the game, i think it depends on their dps output. In mmo's generally "healers" (or healbots) are the least played class, yet the most wanted class for groups, followed by tanks, with DPS being the most abudant.

    If the Clerics in Neverwinter are capable of decent dps and don't feel like your usual "stand back, heal, conserve mana, don't do much dmg" then I think they might stand a chance.
  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    iamtruthseeker wrote: »
    Me Fight with Sword! Me Bob of Tempus! You know class am I?
    I think you are swordmage. Especially when you also have white beard and staff(as seen in sig). You need a hat and monocle though - with a few white doves.
  • hundredhandslaphundredhandslap Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 43
    edited February 2013
    Why would a Fighter need more than block and heavy armor? Normal people, sure, their instinct is to run away from stuff. But a Fighter dives right into it! And as it turns out, both the Guardian and Greatweapon Fighter have charge skills to get them INTO the bad stuff :D

    As far as the Cleric, looks way better than I thought it would. Very active and mobile. I may actually try healing in an MMO for once. But I always prefer melee, so hopefully they add a Paladin or a melee Cleric in the near future.
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