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However one thing that peeved me off though is the association of PWE with the work that what Cryptic is doing that is being cannonized into D&D which is utter false.
Using healing scrolls on yourself while your dead, Mmmm doesnt make much sense to me (i know its a game) but leans towards the game becomeing too arcadey and easy, while party members should be able to rezz the dead toon via a scroll, i have no problem with that, myself not really keen on that.
Only early days yet though just my 2 cents worth.
yea i agree, using ur own resurrection whie dead is not a good idea IMO, i know it sucks to run all the way to the dungeon again but theres other ways to avoid that. Like u say other players using resurrection scrolls on dead people seems reasonable for me.
So you have no qualms with a graveyard run but have qualms with a self rez scroll? Both cater to easiness. If we're going this non-easy route then make it if a party wipes then the delve is over period and have to start anew. Their version vs yours is just an inconvenience really.
Really no matter how you spin it all the rez options are all ridiculous, I say go the old fashion route and it being punitive xp hit for a self rez or have someone rez you there with a scroll or trinket or spell or have your body dragged to a temple but that won't happen.
Permanent dead and rez via true rez spell or something is hard to be possible in an MMO, not saying if is good or bad just saying is not possible. There is a thread about it in this foruns.
I think i read about xp penalty in one of the reviews i saw, and actually i dont want the easy path on this, actually party wipe should mean dungeon over mostly coz it seems the instances or delves are very short, heard they will be arround 30mins for normal dungeons and +1h to delves which is very low comparing to other MMO's, SO yes party wipe=game over would be great IMO
We are not sure if those scrolls are there only for the show since there wasnt clerics (we also dont know if clerics can rez lol). Beside all the game play we have seen so far we still dont have detailed info how the game will work, they are just focus their attention on combat which for me its seems very good BUT to make a fair judgment i think we need MUCH more and i rly hope they have much more to show us lol im actually a affraid that is almost all they have to show
What is someone (or a group) supposed to do if they wipe and no one is around to rez them? How do they get back up?
You are in the afterlife typically in the realm of the dead and you talk to some caretaker to return to the realm of the living for an amount of xp. This system which I see in NWN PWs I favor the most as it is an actual punitive consequence.
I'm not talking permadeath but some actual punitive repercussions like an experience hit.
I like the idea of an underworld. There is a community developed MMO called PlaneShift where if you die then you go to the underworld and have to find your way out. It's not a hard trip, but it makes death more interesting.
It would be cool if you could avoid the xp penalty by finding your way out of the underworld. There could possibly even be quests, portals to other planes, and adventures to be had there. If someone raises you from the dead while you're down there then a popup could offer the quicker way out. If you wanted to pay and xp penalty then you could speak to an npc down there and leave immediately.
Many years ago, when there weren't many rpg games for linux apart from nwn, I played a game with this exact version of death penelty - eternal lands (i think). It had a maze in underworld where to escape you had to remember the route and maps didn't work there.
I would say it would go along with more of a planescape's lady of pain setting than here though as Raven queen is very fond of its souls and wouldn't just let them go back by themselves until rituals have been done (or if its is undead).
But its a nice idea so adding it in my thread under already listed death penelties.
An underworld would be amazing! Especially if it too was an open world where you could bump into other players. This would give a great opportunity for RP...
What you say makes sense. It might not be practical in an MMO where we are so used to recyclable deaths, but it sounds more fun and a bit deeper, at least in theory, to have multiple options. I think it would add a lot to immersion as well.
I like this idea as well. I guess anything to move away from the very recycled perspective we've grown accustomed with MMO character defeat. For me these really address the problem of perma-death not being popular or a realistic option in a long term persistent setting. Death would actually be an event, typically one to avoid, and not just a 'corpse run', a dirt nap waiting for a rez, or cheap teleport back to a rez shrine.