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Nerfing the Wizard??????

jana#2651 jana
jana#2651
 Member Posts: 691 Arc User
in General Discussion (PC)
I heard the wizard and the fighter was going to be nerfed. I hope the devs change their mind about that. My wizard-that(the one that is not arcane can never spell it) I think is finally able to carry her weight in a group, because of some help from Rockster, and some carefully picked artifacts, but overly powerful she is not. I heard there was bug with the enchanted hex, but why should my main character get nerfed when I don't even have or want an enchanted hex?
I always check my stats at the end of a dungeon or skirmish to see if I am improving. I love the Harvester's nightmare because it is a quick way to check it. There were some Drows- barbarian and rogue that had 42000 IL (I am 84something) and they both came ahead of me in damage dealt. I was so bummed I went to the training place for awhile afterwards. And Tieflings just kick butt as do some Warlocks. I wish I could see all of their stats so I could see what their numbers are for critical strike etc are but for some reason they are usually at zero all down the line. Why can't I see them and maybe learn how to improve. Once in a while all the numbers show up but not often.
So please let me see the stats and don't nerf my Wizard!!!!! :'(B):o

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  • mithmyrrmithmyrr Member Posts: 59 Arc User
    You can only see someone's stats if they are in the same instance as you. If you are quick, and check their stats before they leave the dungeon/skirmish, you should be able to see it.

    Without being able to go through each tab of your character sheet, I would not be able to figure out why you underperform, but I know my 67k thaumaturge wizard can definitely hold her own damage-wise in a trial, and she is lacking companions and insignias to improve her item level stats.
  • jana#2651 jana
    jana#2651
         Member Posts: 691 Arc User
    Thanks mithmyrr, I have managed to get a glimpse of some of the stats now. I don't underperform I don't think, but I sure don't need them taking away anything. I am just surprised when people can do so much more damage occasionaly. I am usually in the 2nd place, I might retrain my points for more strength, barbarians and a tiefling anything always has so much more compared to my pathetic 19.
  • greywyndgreywynd Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 7,158 Arc User
    Focus your points on where they do the most good for your character's build. Wizards generally don't need a lot of strength.
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  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,451 Arc User
    jana#2651 said:

    Thanks mithmyrr, I have managed to get a glimpse of some of the stats now. I don't underperform I don't think, but I sure don't need them taking away anything. I am just surprised when people can do so much more damage occasionaly. I am usually in the 2nd place, I might retrain my points for more strength, barbarians and a tiefling anything always has so much more compared to my pathetic 19.

    My wizard's STR is 14. I would consider your 19 points of STR is too much.
    *** The game can read your mind. If you want it, you won't get it. If you don't expect to get it, you will. ***
  • jana#2651 jana
    jana#2651
         Member Posts: 691 Arc User


  • jana#2651 jana
    jana#2651
         Member Posts: 691 Arc User
    Yeah I did it, I found a screen shot, This is what my stats are. I bought the lothlian pantaloons at 2050 item level but I havent used them yet I have 1950 right now. But some times as my guildmate keeps telling me the IL going up doesn't always help. But that is why I find this game so fascinating I am never quite sure of what I am doing half the time. How can 19 strength be to much Plasticbat?
  • jana#2651 jana
    jana#2651
         Member Posts: 691 Arc User
    this is the other one I wanted to post not the same one twice ahhhhh
  • jana#2651 jana
    jana#2651
         Member Posts: 691 Arc User
    file:///C:/Users/dthes/OneDrive/Pictures/Screenshots/Screenshot%20(4).png
  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,451 Arc User
    jana#2651 said:

    file:///C:/Users/dthes/OneDrive/Pictures/Screenshots/Screenshot%20(4).png

    We have no access to your home PC's hard disk. This is a link to your own C drive.
    *** The game can read your mind. If you want it, you won't get it. If you don't expect to get it, you will. ***
  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,451 Arc User
    edited December 2023
    jana#2651 said:

    Yeah I did it, I found a screen shot, This is what my stats are. I bought the lothlian pantaloons at 2050 item level but I havent used them yet I have 1950 right now. But some times as my guildmate keeps telling me the IL going up doesn't always help. But that is why I find this game so fascinating I am never quite sure of what I am doing half the time. How can 19 strength be to much Plasticbat?



    Strength gives you these. Wizard does not care about these ... much. Putting point to STR means you are losing point somewhere else. If I could, I would move 13 points to somewhere else. No, I can't. Actually I could because 3 of that 13 STR is from gear. The base STR this character has is 10. I said 14 before because there was 1 from the camp fire.

    You have way too much critical severity. 5000 too much and that 5000 could have meant +5% to another stat.
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    *** The game can read your mind. If you want it, you won't get it. If you don't expect to get it, you will. ***
  • jana#2651 jana
    jana#2651
         Member Posts: 691 Arc User
    I cant believe I can't get the 2nd screenshot to work, I did the exact same thing and it only gives me that stupid thing. Whats better combat advantage or critical strike? I was really into control resist, because I was tired of sliding off in the cradle of the death God with that ugly baby, then found it wasn't something that really did anything. If strength gives you physical power boost and stamina I shouldn't have to use the mythic stamina one in that one slot, but I always seem to do better when its there.
  • rockster#6227 rockster
    rockster#6227
         Member Posts: 1,860 Arc User
    Strength ability score is physical damage (with stamina also), thing is, wizards do not use physical damage, they use magical damage which is a different ability score. Physical damage would be a Barb running up and thwacking someone with their sword or a ranger shooting a physical arrow and piercing them. Wizards use spells and energy so it is classed as Magical Damage, same as Warlocks would be. I always tend to like a little bit of strength stat on my wizard anyway because stamina is extremely important to me as a stat (means I always am able to jump out of the way repeatedly and hopefully never run out if stam, I do it a lot and it's just the way I play) and the more the better, but it's trade-off for losing more Magical Damage so you can't have both and have to be careful. I made the mistake of thinking that physical damage applied to everyone for a long while without realizing and I lost dps because of it. As a wizard, in my view, when you look at your ability score history chart, you really should be seeing points allocated to magical strength from start to finish with no gaps anywhere, and then use the other points you get along the way to tweak the other stats you care about.
    Apparently pointing-out the bleeding obvious is a 'personal attack'.
  • johnalansimmonsjohnalansimmons Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 39 Arc User
    If you want to track your damage and the damage of the people you are playing with get and use Advanced Combat Tracker, the best way to study, experiment and improve your damage.
  • jana#2651 jana
    jana#2651
         Member Posts: 691 Arc User
    Thanks everyone could suggestions, I heard on some youtube video (not Aragons) that magical damage didn't matter but what you said Rockster makes sense. I am going to try to retrain my stats I think, love this game it is a neverending mind boggle.
  • rockster#6227 rockster
    rockster#6227
         Member Posts: 1,860 Arc User
    Maybe they were someone who uses physical damage and explaining for that kind of build.
    Apparently pointing-out the bleeding obvious is a 'personal attack'.
  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,451 Arc User
    edited December 2023
    rockster#6227 said:

    Maybe they were someone who uses physical damage and explaining for that kind of build.

    Yes, magical damage stat is useless for (say) Barbarian who wants a lot of STR which wizard does not care (much).
    *** The game can read your mind. If you want it, you won't get it. If you don't expect to get it, you will. ***
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